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I need to vent about my Mom...

Tim
user 42890602
Santa Clara, CA
Post #: 98
I just had mind numbing conversation with my mother. This has left me with the need to vent to like minded atheists just for my own sanity. Let me preface this with the fact that I love my mother as much as humanly possible, and that she is one of the sweetest people I have ever met in my life. That's not just my opinion, everyone who meets her has the same reaction. She is however VERY religious as you all should know by now. She lives in a world inhabited by gods, demons, ghosts, and goblins. Well, a few weeks ago I sent her some links to things on Youtube that I thought were not atheistic but just a very basic understanding of how science and reason work. Well, today I spoke with her and she thanked me for turning her on to Youtube. Great! No problem Ma! I didn’t invent it, but enjoy. Then she proceeds to tell me how she’s been watching the Art Bell show on Youtube. NOOOOOOOOOOO! In case any of you are unfamiliar with Art Bell, he’s a radio personality that delves into great things like UFO’s, ghosts, bigfoot, and any other pseudoscience subject that you can image. It’s mostly rural/poorly educated folks like my parents that listen to this crackpot. Then she proceeds to tell me that one of the Art Bell programs she was watching on Youtube was about what are called dark spirits or some such hooey, and that she had been seeing them in her bedroom at night, and had commanded them to “go away in Jesus name”. She says that that got rid of them, and she hasn’t seen them since, but that it was so nice to have Youtube so she could learn more about them from Mr. Bell.
Can you say “FACE PALM”?
A former member
Post #: 190
I just had mind numbing conversation with my mother...Art Bell show on Youtube. NOOOOOOOOOOO!
Sorry about that Tim. If this is truly Art Bell, he retired a long time ago and has been replaced by George Noory, whom you'll see interviewed occasionally on the History Channel's "Ancient Aliens show". I used to love this stuff too, but now also do face plants when I hear it. For me, when I was in transition from "God" stuff to atheism, I was looking for anything that would indicate there is something or someone else out there, especially something that would indicate that our lives go on after death. It is very difficult to get my arms around the thought that my consciousness will cease to exist after I die. It still freaks me out when I get depressed and start contemplating passing from this life, well..., to no life. Your Mom has the God virus and there is no known cure unless you have a Star ship that you are responsible for, much like when Captain Kirk had to break free of an alien spell that had consumed him. This of course begs the question of how did I or some of the rest of us escape the pull of the virus. Tim, I really don't know entirely, but since it happened to us, there is still hope for your Mom. Just continue to love your Mom, smile, and nod.
Brian B.
BrianB
Group Organizer
Campbell, CA
Post #: 21
Wow, don't you wish that you could put on some "parental controls" for YouTube to weed out pseudoscience like they do with pornography? I have always felt, if you can't handle something you should stay away from it. It's clear your Mom can't handle these crackpots, she can't dismiss them as crazy - somehow assimilates them into her world. But like Neil said, don't give up - keep on loving her and maybe one day it might click.
Lyn C
user 102089592
San Jose, CA
Post #: 2
It seems that these videos just end up freaking her out. That really is a shame. I see it in the same way a child fears what's under their bed or in their closet. I wish I knew the right way to alleviate those fears without degrading her beliefs. It really is hard to know what to say to that.

I actually enjoy some stories and "evidence" of bigfoot, UFOs and ghosts, but it's all in good fun. The same reason I like to learn about religions or ancient mythology. If you never watched "Destination Truth," it can be quite amusing.
Invisible Pink U.
user 39389902
Morgan Hill, CA
Post #: 66
This makes me think of Matt Dillahunty's take on Heaven

On The Atheist Experience, Matt Dillahunty made a great logical point that I don't think many Christians even think about. Here is the argument.

My mother loves me more than anything and she could never be happy if I was in harm of any kind. She would suffer every day that I was suffering. In Heaven it is said that there is no sorrow, or pain, only happiness. If my mom goes to heaven as she believes, and I go to hell as the bible states then my mom would never be happy. She would suffer because I am. Now if she is somehow happy even though I am suffering while she is in heaven, then that would not be my mom. God would have had to change everything that she is. Her love for me would be changed. Everything she was and stood for on earth would have to change, which would make her a totally different person and not my mom.
Larry G.
user 21521611
Campbell, CA
Post #: 5
A person who loved you in life couldn't accept your everlasting torment, or even your brief but agonizing destruction in a lake of fire unless that person were totally changed. It would no longer be the person you loved and who loved you. When my mother was dying of cancer, her brother, an evangelist, talked her back into the body of his church (at least, according to my aunt, her sister). I understand that Mom was terrified. But I can't thank my uncle for that comfort. I'm sure he didn't bring it up, but for her to accept "The Kingdom" (his version of the afterlife - not in heaven, but on the "new earth"), she would have to give up her four children. If he had presented that choice to her, she would never have gone back.

What religion does to families just shouldn't happen if there is any love involved in it at all. But it isn't really about love. It's about power.
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