RE: [atheists-93] Meetup Cancelled: VENUE SUGGESTION - PANAHAR?

From: Joe
Sent on: Sunday, April 12, 2009 8:59 PM
If Moses existed, and admitted being Hebrew, he answered with truth. Truth causes pain and suffering at times. Also, assuming one does not believe in biblical stories, there is no need to get emotional or rational, as these stories are fiction. They do not exist. The point is, why debate the make believe? Have fun out there.

Joe



 



From: [address removed]
To: [address removed]
Subject: RE: [atheists-93] Meetup Cancelled: VENUE SUGGESTION - PANAHAR?
Date: Sun, 12 Apr[masked]:50:52 -0400

Is somebody trying to make a point? If so, what?

 

From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Sunday, April 12,[masked]:26 AM
To: [address removed]
Subject: RE: [atheists-93] Meetup Cancelled: VENUE SUGGESTION - PANAHAR?

 

Logically, we humans get emotional.  Sound rational?  Sometimes the truth hurts.

Joe




 

 

From: [address removed]
To: [address removed]
Subject: RE: [atheists-93] Meetup Cancelled: VENUE SUGGESTION - PANAHAR?
Date: Sun, 12 Apr[masked]:45:02 -0400

I have no clue what you?re trying to say, really, or exactly how it relates. I was more interested in the History Channel?s  ?Banned from the Bible?. I couldn?t care less what Moses did or didn?t do.

 

From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Jon Rhodes
Sent: Saturday, April 11,[masked]:58 PM
To: [address removed]
Subject: RE: [atheists-93] Meetup Cancelled: VENUE SUGGESTION - PANAHAR?

 

I'm watching The Ten Commandments. I'm sitting here bout curse out the lead character Moses. Then I realize this is one of those prime time emotional/rational situations that  I believe set apart the reiligious from the non. Here it is. I'm assuming people know something about the story of the Ten Commandments(Cecil B. DeMille s grandiose epic about the life of Moses (Charlton Heston) boasts an all-star cast and Oscar-winning special effects. Unforgettable, ?). All moses had to do to free his people was keep is mouth shut when asked by the pharo "was he a Hebrew", but he didnt. This emotional outburst not only cost him the thrown it also cost him many years of pain and suffering before he was finally able to free the Hebrew slaves. On top of that the people he wanted to save suffered many more years than they would have if he shut his mouth. Would you say this is an example of emotional reasoning that sets apart more rational thinking?

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From: Lindy Gustafsson <[address removed]>
Subject: RE: [atheists-93] Meetup Cancelled: VENUE SUGGESTION - PANAHAR?
To: [address removed]
Date: Saturday, April 11, 2009, 10:53 AM

Atheists don?t make moral decisions. They make human decisions. Mostly these decisions are based on logic and reasoning, but they can also be simply based on the human ability to be compassionate and caring.

 

From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Jon Rhodes
Sent: Friday, April 10,[masked]:40 PM
To: [address removed]
Subject: RE: [atheists-93] Meetup Cancelled: VENUE SUGGESTION - PANAHAR?

 

Hi Lydia. The other day I was watching Saving Private Ryan. When the Commanding Officers were making the decision on weather to send a squad to look for Ryan one of the Officers was against the Idea. His reasons seemed very logical and reasonable. His argument was, ?sending a squad to look for one person that they had only a general idea of where he was was a waste of time?. He also made the argument ?that these men would better used in other manners that would be more productive toward the war effort than looking for one man, who may or may not be alive, and potentially losing their lives in the process?. Yet, the Commanding Officer of the group still gave the order to save Private Ryan for the sake of a mother who had already lost three sons to the war. My question, is this where logic plays apart or is this a time to make things up? 



--- On Fri, 4/10/09, Lydia <[address removed]> wrote:

From: Lydia <[address removed]>
Subject: RE: [atheists-93] Meetup Cancelled: VENUE SUGGESTION - PANAHAR?
To: [address removed]
Date: Friday, April 10, 2009, 1:41 PM

Jon, Re: ethics--Atheists use logic and reasoning to make ethical decisions rationally.  (A religious person uses emotion to make ethical decisions based on personal interpretation of a diety's fiat.)  We do "make it up," but not in the same way a religious person makes it up.  You might begin with Ayn Rand's Philosophy: Who Needs It? for some reading. 
 
I agree we ought to meet and give our money to a business rationally run.

 

Cheers!
 

 


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