Re: [backyard-skeptics] Please read...

From: Joan
Sent on: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 3:37 PM
 
Why does anyone judge what anyone else does? If some people want to gather together in a group and it isn't with the intent of harming others, that's their business. If someone doesn't want to be part of that group, they just don't attend and mind their own business. Those who attend are the kind of people who are tired of the kind of people that pass judgment on others.
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 10/31/2012 3:32:23 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [address removed] writes:
I would think that a reasonable 'objective' would be to simply raise awareness that other freethinkers exist.  Period.  I know that's simplistic, and in the age of the internet, not the issue it may have been in the past, but just letting people know that others share their thoughts and feeling can be helpful.  I have not been active in this group exactly, but my exposure to the group was because of their presence at the Huntington Beach pier.  I think activities like this can be useful, and provide support for others who may not be in situations where 'freethinking' is encouraged.

I can't speak to the earlier post about having kids, not having sex, or not eating meat.  I don't know anything about that.  My understanding of atheist 'organizations' (it's like herding cats, right?), is that the only unifying belief or position is the dis-belief in a higher power of some sort.  There are obviously sub-groups, of great variety, but that is the only unifying position of which I am aware.  I personally don't eat meat, but I understand that others could make a case for meat eating.  This only relates to atheism, at least as I see it, in the sense that religion gives man a special significance, whereas I don't - necessarily.  I think religion justifies the eating of meat (not all obviously, some prohibit it, for equally bizarre reasons), but elevating man above other creatures.  None of this is really important for an atheist group though, and in my mind detracts from the ability to forward a valuable position - that gods are not necessary, or helpful for humanity/civilization.



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On Oct 31, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Timothy Senstock <[address removed]> wrote:

I tend to agree. I have never participated in these discussions because most of the time they're not very important to me. I am also not very impressed by these groups. I am a solid atheist and I have no deference reserved for for any religion, but I'm wondering how important atheist groups are. It is nice to talk to people freely about my beliefs, or lack thereof, but I'm not sure what these discussions accomplish. Can I ask....what is everyone's objective in participating in these skeptic groups?

And I am not trying to be aggressive; I am really curious.

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I have mixed "feelings" about this group. Very good discussions, but Bruce's public relation skills are crap, & the group is centered around a harmonious adult crowd behavior without the praying & singing. True atheism is about individual lifestyles combined to form a universal consensus. Many "atheists" are saying that eating meat is evil, having sex ONLY for pleasure is disgusting & having your own kids is a must to eliminate perversion. What about the kids? Here in Anaheim (where the police shootings occurred) the YMCA is taking over parenting! This past summer they were going to public parks & inviting the kids to join "Arts & Crafts with Jesus" or something like that.

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