Re: [atheists-55] Palin

From: user 7.
Sent on: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 1:39 PM
Doug, hopefully you looked at my email again and realize I did not write it.  If you believe I'd be that vicious, so be it.  I'm not that opinionated.  I have strong beliefs, but I'm the last one to foust them on others.  That's why I let you see what someone sent to me.  Your strong reaction proves my point that forwarding the garbage that people send in hate only leads to misunderstandings, divisions, and anger.  Again, I did not write this crap.

--- On Wed, 9/24/08, Doug <[address removed]> wrote:
From: Doug <[address removed]>
Subject: Re: [atheists-55] Palin
To: [address removed]
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 10:55 AM

I believe you are ranting about politics as well my friend. So again, don't blame me for breaching the subject. My "beliefs" are based on rational thought by the way. It's almost as if you are implying it's not okay to take a stance on anything, please correct me if I'm wrong and don't forget to correct yourself if you realize you are. Try to make your response as straight up as possible to avoid future confusion.

Also, I already rebutted your "having trouble with reality" remark. Don't just repeat yourself if you can't expand on it on how you think I'm having trouble with reality. I think I stated the reality of the current political situation quite clearly. Can you disagree with something specific I said?

Since it seems to be just you and me in this discussion you can just respond to me personally rather than everyone. It may help remove ego's and diffuse the tone a bit as well.

-Doug

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Norm <[address removed]> wrote:
While ranting about your non god beliefs, you left out the last statement that I sent....

"I don't like the choices either, but I am more concern about our freedoms than I am about my own political ideals."
Belief/ideal systems regardless if they are god based or non god based are just as dangerous.





In a message dated 9/24/2008 9:44:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [address removed] writes:

"If you are thinking of voting for someone other than McCain or Obama, you are taking away a vote from Obama which means that you are actually voting for McCain."


You are such a sheep, fuck you. The Democrats are practically as corrupt as the Republican party, it's just the two wings of the corporate party. Also, I'm not to pleased about their stance on the second amendment either . Besides, I guarantee the Democrats will win the state of Maryland anyway even if I vote for mickey mouse so who cares. The whole system is broken, we are given a small pool of candidates to choose from that has been selected for us by the rich who finance their campaigns. We bicker back and forth over this tiny range of silly inconsequential issues, while the larger things are left completely off the table. The media covers the elections like it's a popularity contest, I hardly ever hear any talk about what little policy difference the candidates have just these ridiculous who said what mini scandals. YOU WANT CHANGE IN THIS COUNTRY YOU CANDY ASS PIECE OF SHIT? MEET ME ON PENNSYLVANIA AVE TONIGHT AND BRING AN ASSAULT RIFLE AND SOME MOLOTOV COCKTAILS.

-Doug

PS - lol, jk or maybe not...

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Norm <[address removed]> wrote:
A vote not for Obama is a vote for Palin.

Let's face it folks. The only reason Palin is on the ticket is because the ultra conservatives forced McCain to select her. McCain's health is poor and becoming incapacitated while in office is just what the ultra conservatives want. If that happens, we will have another four years of someone actually worse than Bush. Her religious fundamentalism will take control of her actions.

If you are thinking of voting for McCain, you don't understand the severity of the danger of Theocracy in this county.

If you are thinking of voting for someone other than McCain or Obama, you are taking away a vote from Obama which means that you are actually voting for McCain.  Anyone giving their vote to McCain in this way means that they don't care what happens to the future of this country. They only care about their own idealism and in their conceit, they will certainly guarantee that their ideals will never become popular. The point is to keep our country free. Religious Fundamentalism will take away that freedom. The bottom line is that if you vote for anyone except Obama, you are voting for a Religious Fundamentalist Administration which will be worst then the previous Administration.

Keep in mind that if you voted for someone other than Kerry and Gore, then you contributed the problems that this country is facing today. That not only makes you at fault, but some would question your allegiance to the U.S. Constitution. So if you think that you are going to do it again then this time take responsibility for your actions.

I don't like the choices either, but I am more concern about our freedoms than I am about my own political ideals.











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