AASF: Skeptic Speaks on Cell Phones, Smart Meters & Power Lines

This month Atheist Advocates of SF features skeptical leader, Daniel Sabsay, speaking on "The Health Threat of Cell Phones, Smart Meters & Power Lines." Why the concern over devices like cell phones? What are the risks, and what is the science?

Why are there persistant questions about the safety of electromagnetic radiation emitted and received by our devices? Why all the fuss, and how realistic are the fears?

Is this technology destroying our health, or are these concerns just alarmist pseudo science? Or is the truth somewhere in the middle?

A skeptic tries to sort out the evidence.

Daniel is the Founder of East Bay Skeptics, and a veteran activist.

Afterwards we will go to dinner at a nearby reasonable Chinese restaurant.

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When: Sunday, July 14th at 3:00 PM. (Meeting will start promptly at 3:00.)

Location: Audre Lorde Room (Upstairs), Women's Building,[masked]th (at Valencia), San Francisco

Cost: $6 Renting a meeting room means we must charge admittance. We would appreciate exact change if convenient. Most of all we want you to join us for this talk.

Note: The Women's Building is three blocks from the Mission 16th St. BART. If you don't know the neighborhood we suggest that as you reach the top of the stairs from BART, turn right and walk a few yards to 16th. Then turn left on 16th Street and walk to Valencia, then turn left on Valencia to 18th St.

Parking: Garage at[masked]st Street (at Lexington)

Our next AASF meeting will be on Saturday, September 7th. No meeting in August.

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  • Mark

    I partly agree with M. Maxwell's post. The speaker provided no technical or peer-reviewed scientific information -- and since I attended hoping to hear such info, I shared his disappointment. However, the problem was not with the speaker, but with how the meetup was billed -- something the speaker alluded to at the outset. A better title might have been "A Skeptic's View of the EMF Controversy" -- as the speaker did a good job of identifying logical fallacies, fuzzy thinking, and how well-intended studies can yield questionable results. He also provided specific info about smart meters and cellphones that I found interesting.

    I don't agree the speaker said anything that was wrong or easily disproven. It's easy to cherry-pick studies that seem to show harm. What's hard is to review the many studies on EMF with an open mind and try to make sense of the entire picture.

    Based on my own reading, current fears over EMF do not seem justified. But I look forward to more studies.

    July 24, 2013

  • Ellen B.

    I disagree with the previous poster. (I would be interested to read the studies to which he refers, and the responses from the professional community to them.) I found the speaker to be well-informed and the presentation interesting and thought-provoking. He was aware of numerous studies, some of them contradictory, and was clear that not all studies are equally well-conducted, and anomalous data can be obtained even in a well-controlled study, only to be disproved by later research. This is how science progresses. The power line controversy died a well-deserved death; the cell phone one looks to be going the same way.

    July 22, 2013

  • Michael M.

    1. Speaker failed to provide ANY single specific or cited technical or any scientific peer reviewed and scientifically validly certified information even as a citation and reference supporting his preposterously wrong, factually untrue, and easily dis-proven premises.
    2. He demonstrated and acknowleged his complete ignorance of many recognized and proven scientific research studies that prove---beyond any doubts the cumulative cellular and DNA damages to human tissues caused by EMF causing cancers---such as the British Government's Ten Year Stewart Report, Dr. Liu's research at Univ of Washington; Italian research; Swedish research, et al. This should embarass any and all intelligent, educated and intellectually competent informed and honest observers and Meet-UP organizers and Sponsors. 3. The Speaker offered nothing proven as credible nor any validated evidence to support any of his illogical, non sequitor filled ramblings contrived like FOX Cellular Corporate Propaganda.

    July 15, 2013

  • Gail de V.

    Sorry for changing my RSVP at the last moment but I am having a bout with the flu....hopefully next time...

    July 14, 2013

  • Jenny

    Sounds like a fabulous topic! Is there anyway this discussion could be held at an outdoor setting?

    July 9, 2013

    • Larry H.

      I love the outdoors myself, but it does not work well with meetings. We have already paid over $150 for the room. The outdoors would be cheaper, and much nicer, but....

      July 9, 2013

  • Michael M.

    There is in fact substantial scientific evidence that validates the Harms and Health Risks and Cellular Genetic injury and damages---caused by exposures to Electro-Magnetic Pollutions ---such as from Cellular Phones, Cell Towers and others.

    July 3, 2013

  • Jon A.

    All the scientific evidence I've read over many years has pointed to the conclusion that cell phones cause no harmful effects -- certainly not of any kind that would cause cancer, which is the big concern of alarmists who have been touting the supposed danger of electromagnetic (EM) radiation for decades without any substantiated evidence.

    So -- I am concerned about the event illustration. The illustration would seem to strongly support the non-skeptical idea that non-ionizing radiation is dangerous. Cell phones in fact do not create ionizing radiation. What's the deal, here?

    1 · July 3, 2013

    • Larry H.

      The graphic was posted as satire. Similar to posting people floating up to heaven when an event is about the Rapture.

      1 · July 4, 2013

    • Jon A.

      Okay, I get it. Still, repeated exposure to certain images can create or reinforce erroneous ideas...

      July 4, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    can only make the lecture if it's at 7pm

    July 4, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    i'm confused.... does this start at 7pm as stated in the invite or does it start at 3pm?

    July 3, 2013

    • Larry H.

      And I thought I was so careful about posting this... The time has been corrected. Thanks Debbie, for pointing it out. Sorry about my oversight.

      1 · July 4, 2013

    • A former member
      A former member

      so the meeting is at 3pm; not 7pm - i guess i need to change my rsvp

      July 4, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Just a girl who does not have traditional beliefs about religion

    July 4, 2013

  • Jay D.

    I'm sorry that I'll miss this one... sounds like a great topic!

    July 3, 2013

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