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Re: [htm-1] The Future of the Bay Area HTM Meetup Group

From: Dave W.
Sent on: Friday, April 10, 2009 9:07 AM
Unfortunately, I'll be out of town on business for this meeting.

-Dave

On Apr 10, 2009, at 12:16 AM, Gregory Slater wrote:


Hello Srini,

Thanks for the mail and sorry for the late reply.  Some good ideas.  So far only three yes and two maybe for the meeting I scheduled at the TechShop. If response remains low, I may move it back to the BBC, just becaue it is close to the train.

We'll see.  Hope you can make it to the next meeting.

more later,

- greg


----- Original Message ----- From: "Srini Srinivasan" <[address removed]>
To: <[address removed]>
Sent: Friday, April 03,[masked]:37 PM
Subject: RE: [htm-1] The Future of the Bay Area HTM Meetup Group


Greg,

Kudos to you for taking the initiative to re-incarnate this. I attended the
first meetup after having played with the toolkit for a while, hoping to
develop/discuss/find application ideas with folks willing to spend
non-trivial amount of energy in this promising technology. As noted by you,
the venue/format certainly was not ideal to get into the next level of
detail.

I am in San Jose, but willing to drive up to wherever - not really
particular about location or time. The setting and format is more important;
having it in a quite place with a few easels is a good start. Meeting could
start with a brief 2 minute intro (their interest, domain, time availability
etc) from everyone that can later (even beyond the meetup) allow for groups
to form and work together.

-- Srini

-----Original Message-----
From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of
Gregory Slater
Sent: Friday, April 03,[masked]:49 PM
To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: [htm-1] The Future of the Bay Area HTM Meetup Group




Hello Dave,

Thanks for your response.  It may be hard to find a place
that everyone can get too, but we should try to find a good
compromise.  I'll check TIPS.  Thanks for that suggestion.
We may end up having to have an interim meeting place -
perhaps another restaurant.  We'll see.  I think we need to
schedule the next meeting soon.

Regards,

- Greg





--- On Fri, 4/3/09, Dave Wilson <[address removed]> wrote:

> From: Dave Wilson <[address removed]>
> Subject: Re: [htm-1] The Future of the Bay Area HTM Meetup Group
> To: [address removed]
> Date: Friday, April 3, 2009, 3:39 PM
> Greg,
> I'm interested in HTMs.  I live in San Jose, and
> usually don't have time to fight traffic to Menlo Park,
> so I haven't made it to any meetings. I nevertheless
> hope the Meetup group stays alive, and hope I'll get
> there once in a while.
> Thanks for your efforts.
> I do usually attend the iPhone Developers' Meetups once
> a month, held at TIPS group in Palo Alto (a very nice
> venue). Maybe they could host the Meetup.
> http://www.tipsgroup.com/
> -Dave
> On Apr 2, 2009, at 1:41 AM, Gregory Slater wrote:Hello All
> Members of the Bay Area HTM Group,
>
> My name is Greg Slater.  I am currently the 'interim
> manager' of the HTM group simply because last Sunday
> night, rather than let the group die, I paid the $19
> necessary to keep it going for the month.  I am sending this
> mail to everyone to let you know the status of things and
> ask for feedback and suggestions as to where we all want to
> go from here.  I have no particular interest in running the
> group.  In the last three days I have received mails from
> David Weir and Mike Lee indicating their willingness to take
> over the management.  I am happy to have someone else take
> over.  However, having forked over the $19 to keep it from
> dying, I'd like to at least send this message to all
> members making my suggestions and asking for everyone
> else's preferences, about what, if anything, becomes of
> this group.  I think it's always a good idea to get
> feedback from the group.  There are currently 113 members of
> the group, although in looking at the list the majority
> haven't checked in for months, so are very casual
> members at best (nuthin' wrong with that).
>
> There are really only two points that I wanted to make, and
> then ask you for your ideas and suggestions in return:
>
> First and formost, I think the British Bankers Club is a
> terrible place to meet for several reasons:
>
> 1. It's so noisy everybody is always saying
> 'What?... What??...', and you can't possibly
> hear what someone at the other end of the table is saying.
> 2. You only have room for a handful of the 113 members.
> 3. I come to talk about HTMs not order high priced drinks.
> 4. (Very important!) - Anywhere we meet should have
> frickin' blackboards!  This is just obvious.  This is
> non-negotiable.
>
> Think about it - Donna Dubinsky made the analogy at last
> year's workshop between the current devotees of HTMs to
> the Homebrew Computer Club of yesteryear, and I think
> it's a great and honorable comparison.  Did the HCC meet
> in the BBC and buy drinks?  No!  They met in the SLAC
> auditorium, where there was ample seating for everyone, good
> acoustics, and blackboards to write and brainstorm on.
> Therefore, we need to get a place with 1. acoustics, 2.
> enough seats, 3. black (or white) boards.  It might take
> some research but there's gotta be some classroom or
> other available in the area (with the money we save on
> drinks we can probably rent a place).  The BBC is a pickup
> and sports bar, not an HTM bar.  No we need a classroom
> somewhere, and I wanna put this to the members of the
> (henceforth) Homebrew HTM Club.  I am open to other venues
> that come close to satisfying these requirements.
>
> This is what I'd like to poll the members on, rather
> than assuming that endless meetings at the BBC are what
> everyone wants.
>
> If you agree that a better venue is needed to meet the
> requirements for a group like this, then we need to look for
> a place - preferably one we can use for free - perhaps a
> meeting room at one our work places, an elementary school
> classroom, a community center, etc.  So please send
> suggestions and possibilities for a better meeting place.
> On the other hand, if you actually dig having our meetings
> in the British Bankers Club, I'd like to hear that, too.
>
> Second, I'd like to hear back from people as to what
> they want out of this group, and how they would like to run
> the meetings.  I see the meetings as means for:
>
> 1. Getting to know the people in the HTM community
> (that's us)
> 2. Getting ideas about how HTMs are being used by all of us
> 3. Setting up collaborations between members
> 4. Discussing particulars of HTM implementation, and
> algorithms, problem solving, and tutoring each other
> 5. Brainstorming about new ideas
> 6. I dunno - starting new companies
> 7. Socializing
>
> Please reply with your ideas as to what you most would like
> to get out of our group and our meetings.
>
> As for the ultimate manager of the group, I am happy to
> hand it off to anyone (e.g., David or Mike, or anyone else)
> who is enthusiastic, motivated, creative, and full of ideas.
>
> As for the next meeting, I'll probably schedule it for
> April 20 unless there is a groundswell in favor of another
> particular date.  If we can't line up another meeting
> place before then we may have to meet at the BBC one last
> time (or if, incomprehensibly to me, most people actually
> like meeting at the BBC).
>
> In any case, please let's hear everyone's thoughts
> on the future of, what I'd like to call, the
> 'Homebrew HTM Club'
>
> Whaddya say?  Let me know what you think.
>
> Regards,
>
> - Greg Slater, interim manager of the HTM Group
>
> p.s. - Note that all replies will go to the entire group
>
>
>
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