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Re: [htm-1] The Future of the Bay Area HTM Meetup Group

From: user 8.
Sent on: Friday, April 10, 2009 2:47 PM
Hello guys,

I happy to see some responses. My only reservation about not using
Meetup is that it may reduce the growth of this group.  When I go to
Meetup HTM page, I can see what other groups people in HTM belong  to
and sometimes I really like some of them and i do join.  Now, I am sure
I am not the only who do that so it is a powerful way to bring more
people in. For instance the people who join the big group Meetup AI will
probably will be interested to join the HTM Meetup.

I also like the idea of adding the group to the Numenta forum.  This
will definitely make it easier to collaborate on projects (file
attachment, conversations...) and increase the group reach.  It will
also bring more people to the conversation even if they are not
able/interested in coming to a meeting.  I think the more people who
participate (meet in person or simply respond to a forum question) the
faster all of us would become better at this HTM thing.

Of  course you can also make the argument that having too many people
involved would kill the focus.  So I guess it all depends on we view the
future of this group.

A big benefit of the idea of a Google group is that we can limit access.
There are maybe time when a member won't feel comfortable sharing the
domain, application with the world at large (like a post in Numenta
would)  The member may want the help from a limited group of people but
do not want the world to know what he/she working on. It could be
because it is a company project or simply an entrepreneur who is
thinking about using HTM for a product/service.

By the way, anybody saw this HTM Google group?

http://groups.goo...­

It is in Spanish but you can click on the link at the top of the
messages "translate" and it does a decent job at translating the text in
English.  At least enough to get the context.

Ok I am done for now.  Have a great week-end everybody!

Mo.

ps: Greg:  I cannot seems to send you any email directly?  I reply to
yours directly (@pacbell) but it always returned to me! So please don't
think I do not want to answer you!


----- Original Message -----
From: Lea Mael <[address removed]>
Date: Friday, April 10,[masked]:12 am
Subject: Re: [htm-1] The Future of the Bay Area HTM Meetup Group

> Looks like I will also be out of town, been hoping to change that, 
> but not this time.? A
> 
> L?a
> 
> 
> 
> P.S. Please reply here or via IM if brief, personal or exigent 
> exabytes.
> --- On Fri, 10/4/09, Dave Wilson <[address removed]> wrote:
> From: Dave Wilson <[address removed]>
> Subject: Re: [htm-1] The Future of the Bay Area HTM Meetup Group
> To: [address removed]
> Date: Friday, 10 April, 2009, 9:07 AM
> 
> Unfortunately, I'll be out of town on business for this meeting.
> -Dave
> On Apr 10, 2009, at 12:16 AM, Gregory Slater wrote:
> 
> Hello Srini,
> 
> Thanks for the mail and sorry for the late reply. ?Some good 
> ideas. ?So far only three yes and two maybe for the meeting I 
> scheduled at the TechShop. If response remains low, I may move it 
> back to the BBC, just becaue it is close to the train.
> 
> We'll see. ?Hope you can make it to the next meeting.
> 
> more later,
> 
> - greg
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Srini Srinivasan" 
> <[address removed]>To: <[address removed]>
> Sent: Friday, April 03,[masked]:37 PM
> Subject: RE: [htm-1] The Future of the Bay Area HTM Meetup Group
> 
> 
> Greg,
> 
> Kudos to you for taking the initiative to re-incarnate this. I 
> attended the
> first meetup after having played with the toolkit for a while, 
> hoping to
> develop/discuss/find­ application ideas with folks willing to spend
> non-trivial amount of energy in this promising technology. As 
> noted by you,
> the venue/format certainly was not ideal to get into the next 
> level of
> detail.
> 
> I am in San Jose, but willing to drive up to wherever - not really
> particular about location or time. The setting and format is more 
> important;having it in a quite place with a few easels is a good 
> start. Meeting could
> start with a brief 2 minute intro (their interest, domain, time 
> availabilityetc) from everyone that can later (even beyond the 
> meetup) allow for groups
> to form and work together.
> 
> -- Srini
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of
> Gregory Slater
> Sent: Friday, April 03,[masked]:49 PM
> To: [address removed]
> Subject: Re: [htm-1] The Future of the Bay Area HTM Meetup Group
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hello Dave,
> 
> Thanks for your response. ?It may be hard to find a place
> that everyone can get too, but we should try to find a good
> compromise. ?I'll check TIPS. ?Thanks for that suggestion.
> We may end up having to have an interim meeting place -
> perhaps another restaurant. ?We'll see. ?I think we need to
> schedule the next meeting soon.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> - Greg
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 4/3/09, Dave Wilson <[address removed]> wrote:
> 
> > From: Dave Wilson <[address removed]>
> > Subject: Re: [htm-1] The Future of the Bay Area HTM Meetup Group
> > To: [address removed]
> > Date: Friday, April 3, 2009, 3:39 PM
> > Greg,
> > I'm interested in HTMs. ?I live in San Jose, and
> > usually don't have time to fight traffic to Menlo Park,
> > so I haven't made it to any meetings. I nevertheless
> > hope the Meetup group stays alive, and hope I'll get
> > there once in a while.
> > Thanks for your efforts.
> > I do usually attend the iPhone Developers' Meetups once
> > a month, held at TIPS group in Palo Alto (a very nice
> > venue). Maybe they could host the Meetup.
> > http://www.tipsgr...­
> > -Dave
> > On Apr 2, 2009, at 1:41 AM, Gregory Slater wrote:Hello All
> > Members of the Bay Area HTM Group,
> >
> > My name is Greg Slater. ?I am currently the 'interim
> > manager' of the HTM group simply because last Sunday
> > night, rather than let the group die, I paid the $19
> > necessary to keep it going for the month. ?I am sending this
> > mail to everyone to let you know the status of things and
> > ask for feedback and suggestions as to where we all want to
> > go from here. ?I have no particular interest in running the
> > group. ?In the last three days I have received mails from
> > David Weir and Mike Lee indicating their willingness to take
> > over the management. ?I am happy to have someone else take
> > over. ?However, having forked over the $19 to keep it from
> > dying, I'd like to at least send this message to all
> > members making my suggestions and asking for everyone
> > else's preferences, about what, if anything, becomes of
> > this group. ?I think it's always a good idea to get
> > feedback from the group. ?There are currently 113 members of
> > the group, although in looking at the list the majority
> > haven't checked in for months, so are very casual
> > members at best (nuthin' wrong with that).
> >
> > There are really only two points that I wanted to make, and
> > then ask you for your ideas and suggestions in return:
> >
> > First and formost, I think the British Bankers Club is a
> > terrible place to meet for several reasons:
> >
> > 1. It's so noisy everybody is always saying
> > 'What?... What??...', and you can't possibly
> > hear what someone at the other end of the table is saying.
> > 2. You only have room for a handful of the 113 members.
> > 3. I come to talk about HTMs not order high priced drinks.
> > 4. (Very important!) - Anywhere we meet should have
> > frickin' blackboards! ?This is just obvious. ?This is
> > non-negotiable.
> >
> > Think about it - Donna Dubinsky made the analogy at last
> > year's workshop between the current devotees of HTMs to
> > the Homebrew Computer Club of yesteryear, and I think
> > it's a great and honorable comparison. ?Did the HCC meet
> > in the BBC and buy drinks? ?No! ?They met in the SLAC
> > auditorium, where there was ample seating for everyone, good
> > acoustics, and blackboards to write and brainstorm on.
> > Therefore, we need to get a place with 1. acoustics, 2.
> > enough seats, 3. black (or white) boards. ?It might take
> > some research but there's gotta be some classroom or
> > other available in the area (with the money we save on
> > drinks we can probably rent a place). ?The BBC is a pickup
> > and sports bar, not an HTM bar. ?No we need a classroom
> > somewhere, and I wanna put this to the members of the
> > (henceforth) Homebrew HTM Club. ?I am open to other venues
> > that come close to satisfying these requirements.
> >
> > This is what I'd like to poll the members on, rather
> > than assuming that endless meetings at the BBC are what
> > everyone wants.
> >
> > If you agree that a better venue is needed to meet the
> > requirements for a group like this, then we need to look for
> > a place - preferably one we can use for free - perhaps a
> > meeting room at one our work places, an elementary school
> > classroom, a community center, etc. ?So please send
> > suggestions and possibilities for a better meeting place.
> > On the other hand, if you actually dig having our meetings
> > in the British Bankers Club, I'd like to hear that, too.
> >
> > Second, I'd like to hear back from people as to what
> > they want out of this group, and how they would like to run
> > the meetings. ?I see the meetings as means for:
> >
> > 1. Getting to know the people in the HTM community
> > (that's us)
> > 2. Getting ideas about how HTMs are being used by all of us
> > 3. Setting up collaborations between members
> > 4. Discussing particulars of HTM implementation, and
> > algorithms, problem solving, and tutoring each other
> > 5. Brainstorming about new ideas
> > 6. I dunno - starting new companies
> > 7. Socializing
> >
> > Please reply with your ideas as to what you most would like
> > to get out of our group and our meetings.
> >
> > As for the ultimate manager of the group, I am happy to
> > hand it off to anyone (e.g., David or Mike, or anyone else)
> > who is enthusiastic, motivated, creative, and full of ideas.
> >
> > As for the next meeting, I'll probably schedule it for
> > April 20 unless there is a groundswell in favor of another
> > particular date. ?If we can't line up another meeting
> > place before then we may have to meet at the BBC one last
> > time (or if, incomprehensibly to me, most people actually
> > like meeting at the BBC).
> >
> > In any case, please let's hear everyone's thoughts
> > on the future of, what I'd like to call, the
> > 'Homebrew HTM Club'
> >
> > Whaddya say? ?Let me know what you think.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > - Greg Slater, interim manager of the HTM Group
> >
> > p.s. - Note that all replies will go to the entire group
> >
> >
> >
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