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Bitcoin Wednesday Amsterdam #16

  • Oct 1, 2014 · 7:00 PM
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Bitcoin Wednesday Amsterdam #16

The best and longest-running regular Bitcoin Meetup in the Netherlands takes place on the first Wednesday of every month.

An open and low-key gathering for anyone interested in Bitcoin.

Always held on the first Wednesday of every month.

For Bitcoin novices and experts alike.

At Bitcoin Wednesday on October 1st:

This evening's program is curated by Aaron van Wirdum of the Dutch Bitcoin and crypto news site  Aaron will also be the night's host and moderator.

This Coincourant edition of Bitcoin Wednesday will be roughly divided into two parts.  During the first part of the evening a number different speakers will take the stage, while the second part of the evening will revolve around a debate and a vote on the activities of the Dutch Bitcoin Foundation.

The first speaker will be Sebastian Lobato who will demonstrate with his website what Bitcoin actually is.  Feel free to bring newcomers for this presentation and also be sure to listen to this talk if you are a newcomer as well.

Founder of Bits of Freedom and current Digital Defence lawyer Ot van Daalen will next give a talk about compliance and how Bitcoin enterprises can protect the privacy of their customers.

And finally, how can you trust people and organizations with the supervision of a central authority? Tim Pastoor will unveil his concept for a digital reputation system.

The second part of the evening will center upon the recently launched initiative "Bitcoin is Money."  During the previous Bitcoin Wednesday, Bitonic, the Dutch Bitcoin Foundation and the Solv lawyer's office a plan to appeal the verdict of the court in Overijssel which stated that Bitcoin is not money.  But is this goal really something toward which the Bitcoin community should strive?

A debate on the subject will be held with Pieterjan Goppel of Bitonic, Carl Kuntze of the Dutch Bitcoin Foundation, and digital freedom activists Arjen Kamphuis and Robbie Hontelé.

Sign up for Bitcoin Wednesday is free.  Make sure you register now to reserve your place.

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  • Julian H.

    Hey guys, please consider taking and sharing this survey. It will be open until sunday night 23:00. The focus is on the Nederlandse en Vlaamse Bitcoin Community. I'll follow up with the results sunday night.

    October 3, 2014

  • Alex

    Should this be renamed Bittonic Wednesday?
    Seems to be focused more on their corporate agenda than the community.

    1 · October 1, 2014

    • Richard S.

      Just remember.. Bitcoin is like the honeybadger... it doesn't give a fuck... ;)

      1 · October 2, 2014

    • GeneralSeven

      I watched the microphones being passed around the room all evening, and question after challenging question was raised. It was hardly any endorsement for Bitonic to be there. Instead it raised a lot awareness for the problems and issues. It was all about the community. Just for agreeing to come and express their unpopular point of view, makes Bitonic a part of the community, like it or not. Not this time, but there are still going to be issues where you actually agree with them. That's a hallmark of the digital currency revolution.

      That's also why a poll was taken and Q&A was done, getting to know where we stand and just looking for common ground.

      I thought it was interesting. Bitonic deserves credit for accountability, getting up there and answering up to all the criticism. When something of this nature happens in the Netherlands, it's a very positive step to open it up for critical debate.

      2 · October 3, 2014

  • Sebas

    I have an idea for future meetups, it will be interesting if someone gives a short presentation about the most relevant news or cool new ideas of the month like the amazing work Gavin did with bloom filters and the implications for Bitcoin or the superNet project, for example.
    Sometimes I miss news in the media about great projects/ideas and talking with people in the meetup I find out about them, but maybe a combined short powerpoint will be easier to learn even more new stuff.

    1 · October 3, 2014

  • Julian H.

    I posted this to the FB group

    Geachte Bitcoin Community Leden,

    What would you ask the Dutch Bitcoin Community?

    This weekend, I want to conduct a survey focussing on the members of our community. For this, I prepared a Google Document which includes a draft of the questions. A mock up, briefly posted (on FB) yesterday, made me realize that the interest was much greater than I had expected.

    That is why I ask all of you what questions might be missing in the survey.

    The survey will be open between 17:00 Friday until 00:00 Sunday. * I have been actively involved in digital currencies for more than a decade. Besides starting a Casino in 2006 (which flopped), I ran a Virtual Currency Exchange between 2007 and 2011 centered around Klammlose.

    Met vriendelijke Groetjes,


    October 2, 2014

  • Alex

    Should this be renamed Bittonic Wednesday?
    Seems to be focused more on their corporate agenda than the community.

    October 1, 2014

  • Max B.

    You can pay with Bitcoin on our POS at the bar!

    2 · October 1, 2014

  • Jan-Willem B.

    It would be great if someone could explain exactly how a ruling that bitcoin (and other digital currencies) is money would impact the industry. So far the only thing that is clear to me is that digital currency transactions should be levied by VAT if they're not treated as a currency by the government.

    1 · September 17, 2014

    • PikaPay

      Simon, although your article says "The Dutch Bitcoin community has chosen to challenge the above verdict...," if you're able to attend the debate tonight I think you'll see substantial numbers of the community who would not necessarily challenge the verdict.

      1 · October 1, 2014

    • Simon L.

      Thanks, I'll try to drop by this evening and will refrase the wording

      October 1, 2014

  • Sjors P.

    I'll be late for bitcoin related reasons, but I do plan to make it, if only for the drinks.

    1 · September 29, 2014

  • Raas


    September 29, 2014

  • Richard S.

    We need more media attention on the current corrupted defacto status of the financial system in order for Bitcoin to succeed. Right now the average Joe doesn't give a damn about untill another "Black Swan" a la 2008 event happens which suddenly wakes the average sheeple Joe up. Right now it would be pointless to tell the average Joe about it, because it doesn't fall in his limited cognition. Currently more and more banks worldwide are practically banning the use of Bitcoin by blocking capital inflow. This has given a tremendous blow to the industry and will cripple us if they continue to do so. We need to show the world that the current financial system is fraudulent and that the banks and .govs are denying any alternative system to exist. We could wait when the "Black Swan" event happens or act right now. The first option requires little resources, but a lot of patience and by that time the banking industry has already done much more damage to the economic/political landscape.

    1 · September 17, 2014

  • Richard S.

    ..the latter requires a lot of funding. We see millions of VC capital being pumped in startups. These startups will be pointless if banks continue to block capital inflow to the Bitcoin economy. Why not play the "dirty" game of mass manipulation as well through the mass media?

    September 17, 2014

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