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The Religions Of The World Can't All Be Right, But They Can All Be Wrong.

From: Martin S.
Sent on: Monday, January 21, 2008 2:51 PM
I agree. Especially if accompanied with something like '- Brisbane Atheists' in smaller print
somewhere else (lower right hand corner?) on the billboard.

--- Steven Parker <[address removed]> wrote:

> 
> i am still for 'The Religions Of The World Can't All Be Right, But They Can All Be Wrong'.
>  
> the best
> Steven Parker
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>[masked]> From: [address removed]> Subject: RE: [atheists-501] David's designs for the
> Atheist Billboard Idea?> To: [address removed]> Date: Sun, 20 Jan[masked]:54:21 -0500> >
> David, I didn't want to offend you. I have probably watched too many "South Park" cartoons. And
> so> have many other people who might make the same associations.> > I apologize for being
> tactless.> > --- David <[address removed]> wrote:> > > > > i'm quite disturbed by the way
> you think. you're giving far too much of yourself away my> > friend. no one i've shown those to
> has thought that...except you. > > > > pointing out the imperfections i perceive in other
> people's ideas was just excercised by me. > > > From: [address removed]> Subject: RE:
> [atheists-501] David's designs for the Atheist> > Billboard Idea?> To: [address removed]>
> Date: Sun, 20 Jan[masked]:40:31 -0500> > Hi, I> > hate to do it, but I believe pointing out the
> imperfections I perceive in other people's> ideas> > will lead to a better end result. Even if I
> am wrong about certain things, I hope it still>> > raises awareness.> > Picture 1 (the pregnant
> woman): The position of the word "Atheism" would> > cause some people to> associate atheism with
> fecal matter.> > Picture 3 (Beach: adult with> > child) The slogan "Believe in something small?
> Discover something> much bigger" is almost> > certainly going to be associated with pedophilia.>
> > Cheers, Martin S.> > --- David> > <[address removed]> wrote:> > > > > Hey everyone, i put
> up some designs i did on the> > messageboards. I wanted to do something that> > was a bit
> positive and inspiring. confronting> > won't get us more people, coaching them with a> >
> positive message and meaning will. I hope you> > like them :) any ideas ?> > > > From:
> [address removed]> > To:> > [address removed]> > Subject: RE: [atheists-501]
> "Specifications" for the Atheist> > Billboard Idea?> > Date: Fri, 18 Jan[masked]:54:18 -0500> >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Good morning,> > > > > > > > After trialling a lot> > of
> our ideas on my catholic-raised husband> > I really believe that the billboard> > should be
> purely about atheism,> > nothing to do with> > religion so that it grabs attention in a
> positive,> > non-threatening way (?See!!!!! I told> > you!!!!! Those militant Atheists!?)> > > >
> > > > > This is tricky! I?ve> > gone back through the> > suggestions and Gregg Savage?s
> suggestion of Imagine Reason really appeals> > because it> > is> > about atheism, not religion.
> It?s a challenge to explain Atheism> > without mentioning religion,> > and for a lot of us we
> are not anti-religion or> > the messages that individuals that people> > like Jesus delivered
> (I?m sure> > he was a very nice bloke) but it?s like trying to explain> > black without> >
> mentioning white.> > > > > > > > So I?m putting forth my suggestion of a play> > on words based
> on ?supercalifragilisti­cexpial?> > to try and explain what atheism and our group> > is about and
> came up with > > > > ?AntiSupernaturalism­ReasonisOurFocus?. > > My design skills> > are
> appalling (evidence attached) but I?d appreciate> > feedback or suggestions.> > > > > > > >> >
> Cheers> > > > Kathryn J> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----> > >
> >> > From: [address removed]> > [mailto:[address removed]] On> > Behalf > > > > Of
> Sue> > Skuse> > > > Sent: Friday, 18 January[masked]:23 PM> > > > To: [address removed]> >
> > >> > Subject: RE: [atheists-501] "Specifications" for the Atheist> > Billboard Idea?> > > > >
> > > >> > Your email is very much to the point, I think, Martin S. > > > > > > > > We should
> probably try> > to agree on the broad message we want to send> > first.> > > > > > > > The
> billboard medium sort> > of dictates a single, powerful idea. > > Preferably> > > > mainly
> visual.> > > > > > > > Sue> > Skuse> > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----> > > >
> From: [address removed]> >> > [mailto:[address removed]] On> > Behalf Of> > > >
> Martin Stuijfzand> > > > Sent: Thursday,> > 17 January[masked]:15 PM> > > > To:
> [address removed]> > > > Subject: [atheists-501]> > "Specifications" for the Atheist> >
> Billboard Idea?> > > > > > > > Hi All,> > > > Apart from> > concrete ideas for the billboard
> itself, I think it is> > useful to> > > > think of> > > >> > "specifications". In other words:
> what do we want to achieve?> > > > > > > > > > In my humble> > opinion:> > > > *There is only
> about split second to grab attention. I believe this> > means it>> > > > > needs an emotional
> or> > > > a humorous component.> > > > > > > > *Do we want to provide> > entertainment for other
> atheists, or do we want> > to> > > > give theists a slight> > > > nudge> > to reconsider their
> views? I myself would prefer the latter.> > > > > > > > *If the ad is> > negative it needs to be
> done carefully. If done> > skillfully, it> > > > would be a good way> >> > > > to grab attention
> _without_ giving atheists a bad name.> > > > > > > > *If the billboard is> > going to be
> offensive, I think it should be> > equally> > > > offensive to all three> > > >> > major
> Abrahamic religions. Most religious people have negative feelings> > > > about at least> > one
> of> > > > them, and it could be useful to capitalise on that. It would> > potentially> > > >> >
> also show the relatedness> > > > of all three. It would also reduce the opportunity for attack>
> > by one> > > > religion if no one religion> > > > is singled out. > > > > > > > > *An example
> of> > a partial exception to the not-singled-out spec would be> > the> > > > first idea Martin
> Rady> >> > > > put forward. "Imagine no religion" with the twin towers. No> > group in> > > >
> Australia> >> > can get away with> > > > saying that flying into the towers was a good idea, so
> there less of> > an> > > > opportunity for attack by> > > > one religion.> > > > > > > > *I
> believe care should> > be taken to avoid resemblance to Nazi-era> > > === message truncated ===>
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