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RE: [atheists-501] Worrying times for democracy in Australia

From: Vonnie
Sent on: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 6:56 PM
For what it's worth, I agree with Martin, Graham and Julian and very much disagree with Stephen's opinions on this matter.  
Apart from being a gross violation of human rights, it's yet another of the Howard government's famous last-ditch-fear-mongering-vote-grabbing tactics which, hopefully, the plebs won't fall for... again...  
And as for Stephen's claims "Thank you those members who contacted me off list embarrassed by Julian's postings" - I don't believe those members exist and, if they did, surely they would post to the list, rather than skulking off, tittering behind closed doors?  Not the kind people for whom I'd have any respect.  If they existed...
Sure, Julian's postings were heated.  But, compared to other groups, actually pretty tame.
Stephen, you must understand that most atheists do not subscribe to right-wing "ideals".  You are entitled to your opinion, but do not act surprised when that opinion is very strongly opposed by the majority of members here. 
There is no proof whatsoever that Haneef is a terrorist, has ever been a terrorist, has ever plotted with terrorists or ever wants to be a terrorist.  
Ignorance abounds.
Next, it'll be "persecute the godless because they have no morals or ethics".  Sheesh. 

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