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Church and State (dinner and discussion)

  • Aug 21, 2014 · 7:00 PM
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One of the benefits of practical philosophy is to give us a deeper understanding of the delicate balance between rights and freedoms as well as our duties as citizens in matters of church and state.

PLEASE REMEMBER to view at least one of the videos on our Food for Thought page prior to attending this event:

Click here to view the Food for Thought page for this event

Please don't be afraid to sign up for this event since I will cancel it and provide refunds if less than 5 people sign up. If the event is full then please remember to add yourself to the waiting list since I will open up the event to additional tables if I can see that there is enough demand to do so.

What makes this topic so important?

The scope of religious influence on rights and freedoms covers the spectrum from matters of birth (i.e. abortion) to death (i.e. euthanasia), marriage (i.e. same-sex marriage), medical research (i.e. stem cell controversy) and many other issues which affect us all. Even if you believe that your country has a firm separation of church and state we are no longer living in an age where one government's actions have no consequences for other countries. Please note, if your only interest in this topic is to rant about religion (or rant about anything else for that matter) then please do not sign up for this event. This purpose of this event is to have a respectful and engaging discussion focusing on insights and ideas regarding the separation of church and state with respect to both religious and non-religious fellow human beings. Click here to view the format for our events.

The sub-topics in this discussion will include:

National Identity (i.e. the use of religious words and phrases in currency, national anthems, and in public spaces)

Rights and Freedoms (i.e. religion in public schools, oaths involved with swearing in new citizens, religious references in political speeches, etc)

Opportunities for Change (sharing ideas and actions we can take to produce change) for the sake of creating more aware and engaged global citizens and to reaffirm the importance of how one person can make a difference.

As usual, our facilitators will be provided with discussion questions to keep the conversations on topic (at least for the first 90 minutes).


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- Do I need to have any formal philosophy experience to be part of these events? No, this is not required. Click here to find out more about the nature of our events

- More questions? Click here to visit our main FAQ page

Facilitator Information

As previously mentioned, our members take turns helping to facilitate our discussions. We require one discussion facilitator for each table of 6 people so please leave a comment below (i.e. "I'll help facilitate") if you're able to help out at this event. No facilitation experience is required.

Click here to view the facilitator notes for this event

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  • A former member
    A former member

    the group was probably too large to allow all participants to fully engage with the subject matter

    September 9, 2014

  • Karen

    Thank-you Donna. I had a great time and I loved getting to know you and the rest of the group. Hope to see you at the next philosophical meetup. :-)

    August 22, 2014

  • DONNA P.

    Karen, you were a great facilitator. Thank you for your preparation and efforts.

    August 22, 2014

  • A former member
    A former member

    The chicken and dhal was excellent but the biryani not good quality rice, and overcooked.

    August 22, 2014

  • Memo

    Excellent, all of us shared our point of views about the topic with very interesting facts, the food was delicious and luckily the restaurant was almost empty so we were close to had the whole place just for us.

    August 22, 2014

  • A former member
    A former member

    Hello everyone, I am sorry but I am just feeling terrible and I think I shouldn't go. I have had the flu for the last couple of days, and yeah, probably best not to go. A regretful reneg.

    August 21, 2014

  • Karen

    I am happy to facilitate if this is helpful.

    August 18, 2014

    • Glen B.

      Great, thanks Karen! Could you please confirm that you're able to print yourself a copy of the notes for tomorrow? Once again, here's the link to the notes and facilitator FAQs for this topic: http://www.philosophy...­

      August 20, 2014

    • Karen

      I have printed them thx Glen

      August 21, 2014

  • A former member
    A former member

    Happy to facilitate

    August 18, 2014

    • Glen B.

      Thanks Matthew. I was going to suggest that you take a break but since you keep offering and since people seem to appreciate your facilitating in the past so much I certainly won't turn down your offer! Once again, here's the link to the notes for this event: http://www.philosophy...­

      1 · August 20, 2014

  • Andrew

    I will have to dip out on my first dinner with an unexpected guest coming into town.

    August 18, 2014

  • Glen B.

    Unfortunately, I won't be able to attend this event in person but I will be coordinating it to run just as smoothly as the events which I'm able to attend in person. Please see this page for more details:

    August 11, 2014

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