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RE: [ronpaul-48] FW: "Natural Born Citizen"

From: Jeff R.
Sent on: Sunday, May 4, 2014 12:39 PM

This is getting quite old. I dislike Obama even more than I disliked Bush in office, but that doesn’t change anything. “Natural Born’ has repeatedly been proven to mean historically someone who is either born on USA soil OR who is the child of even a single American parent. STOP THE IDIOCY on this.


Even Abraham Lincoln did not have a birth certificate. So does that mean that he was never President and any laws he signed are invalid?


There is NOTHING in the Constitution requiring a birth certificate and if you don’t like, then change the Constitution.


Why not spend this time and money pushing for hand counted paper ballots in every precinct for every election? That would at least be taking action on something that would REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.




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Thomas Pynchon said, “If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers.” When it comes to the issue of whether Obama was born in Hawaii, or Kenya, they succeeded in doing just that.


Any sensible person should know there is a difference between a "citizen" and a "natural born citizen," otherwise the writers of the Constitution would not have used that term when specifying the qualifications for the office of President of the United States. Over time, they have been able to dumb down the population by such tactics as mis-education and changing the meaning of words. Regarding the later, when I was young, "gay" meant merry or cheerful, whereas now the first thought upon hearing the word is a homosexual. But had the Constitution contained the word "gay" as say a qualification for office, it would mean what it meant then, and not what it means now. The sought after qualification would have been for a cheerful merry person, not a homosexual. If people now found that was no longer a pertinent requirement, they could amend the Constitution to make that change. If we no longer believe that it is necessary for the President to be the child of parents both of whom were citizens, we can amend the Constitution to do just that; but until it is amended, the requirement stands.


People at the time of the drafting of the Constitution understood that a "natural born citizen" was more than just a citizen, but rather one whose parents were both US citizens at the time of his birth. The idea was that the President should be a person who would be less likely to have any divided loyalties.


Obama has freely admitted that his father was from Kenya. He is therefore NOT a "natural born citizen". (If was really was born in Kenya, he not even a citizen.) Neither are presidential hopefuls, Senators Cruz and Rubio. Of course should they choose to run for the office of President, they will likely claim the "Obama exception." For a more detailed legal explanation of "natural born citizen" click here.




“Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.” — Daniel Webster









I bet you didn't know that....


the so-called "Federal Income Tax" was not needed to, and didn't,  fund the Federal Government during
the first 155 years of our history ...from 1787 until 1942. truly free person would ever give up the details of his personal economic life to the
government....any government .... voluntarily .... even once.....never mind on an annual basis.

To do so would be to give up one's 4th amendment privacy rights to be secure in one's person, property,
papers and effects. (personal finances are none of the federal government's damned business) 

The recent debacle in which the IRS was used as a political weapon highlights the folly of putting up with
this bizarre, ridiculous, tyrannical, anti-constitutional,  fraudulent,  oppressive criminal custom.


If you would like to know the proper, liberty sustaining, prosperity generating, budget balancing system
for funding the Federal Government, designed early on by Tom Jefferson and Alex Hamilton, you need a
copy of the little book:
Prosperity Restored by the State Rate Tax Plan" by Edward A. Ellison, Jr., J.D. and John William Kurowski
and its essential little companion on money "
The Miracle on Main Street" by F. Tupper Saussy.


Together they lay out the simple economic system that made America more prosperous in 100 years than

all other civilizations in all of history combined. It is the core of what really made America exceptional
and a piece of American history that not one American in 10,000 today...much to their financial detriment....
knows anything about.

You can learn more about them here: 


You can usually find both books available here:

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