RE: [9-11-350] What will we do when the elections come, if they come.

From: Blair
Sent on: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 2:10 PM

YES, TIM, THANK YOU TIM. AMEN. BLAIR

 


From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Tim King
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 1:58 PM
To: [address removed]
Subject: RE: [9-11-350] What will we do when the elections come, if they come.

 

As I sift through the emails that reflect the ongoing frustration of our current state, and they are all relevant in my opinion, I wonder if and when things will get better in our country. I echo the sentiments by someone who said earlier that things will probably get worse before they get better. We would be naive to think differently knowing what we know. The list of things that are wrong are much too long to mention here but I will state, again, that they are all relevant. However, this ongoing frustration stems from the lack of a clear and precise remedy. If we know something is broken we fix it, if your car tire is flat you change it, experiencing a toothache, go see a dentist, etc. etc. Unfortunately, the clear and precise remedy for what we are experiencing in our country is not as simple. Furthermore, as history has taught us, we DO KNOW that the ongoing problems will NOT be solved by those in Washington, as the many problems we face are a direct result of their actions or inability to act. I don't have a remedy to the many problems we face, I wish I did. But, what I do have is a voice, a passion and an uncontrollable desire to see that our country be put back on a path that leads to accountability for the numerous crimes committed against humanity. I do have a VOICE, I do have RIGHTS, I do have HUNGER for TRUTH. At some point we all have to get away from our computers and assemble in the streets to awaken others. Bring your VOICE on May 26th. The remedy does not reside on a computer screen. HIT THE STREETS and BRING YOUR VOICE !!!!

Tim

scobman <[address removed]> wrote:

At the moment these issues are insignificant: women's rights, gay rights, corporate tax welfare, social tax welfare
 
Basically every issue is insignificant right now cuz the issue is OUR FREEDOM, OUR CONSTITUTION.
 
We will see our leader attempt to take those 2 things away in the near future.
After that we no longer have any rights, we will only have PRIVILEDGES granted by government.


From: [address removed]
Subject: Re: [9-11-350] What will we do when the elections come, if they come.
To: [address removed]
Date: Wed, 23 Apr[masked]:05:24 -0400

I would be interested to know what it is you're doing outside the system to improve things.
 
Barb

 

----- Original Message ----
From: harlequin516 <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Tuesday, April 22,[masked]:17:46 PM
Subject: Re: [9-11-350] What will we do when the elections come, if they come.

I realize that you don't see productivity working outside the system.  The problem is that we (9/11 Truth and Anti-War Community) have nothing to gain by working inside the system.  The MSM candidates cannot be influenced significantly; at least I don't see how.  Maybe you can enlighten us.  We don't want to put all of our efforts to support women's rights, gay rights, corporate tax welfare, social tax welfare or anything like this.  These are all tertiary issues for us. 

Our primary goals are to return the US to the rule of law and balance of powers, ending our Empire abroad, and returning government and taxation to the people.  None of the MSM candidates offer any hope of these goals.  Until you can bridge how working in the system can accomplish these goals, you will not move us in your direction.  We are a stubborn bunch.  We know what we want, and we will not be swayed away from these goals.

We are not opposed to Obama, we just feel that Obama is not the answer to the questions we are asking.

-SR

Barbara Njos wrote:

I understand, another thing, we don't want to be called "girls". We're women.  I also understand your frustration.  I'm frustrated also.  If you don't want to work within the system, what are your solutions to making this world perfect?  I complain, but work VERY hard to make things better. Just complaining doesn't solve the problems we face.  I'm concerned about the poor and am a volunteer also for Habitat for Humanity.  I try and do something about domestic violence and women's rights through NOW.  I'm concerned about "global warming" and do everything I can to be a "green" consumer.  I also work very hard in the Democratic party to try and make things better. If there's more I can do, please tell me.  I read and view as much as I can but still have to try and look at how I might make a difference, no matter how small. Tell me your answers to solving the problems we all face daily.
 
Barb

----- Original Message ----
From: scobman <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Tuesday, April 22,[masked]:41:34 PM
Subject: RE: [9-11-350] What will we do when the elections come, if they come.

Im sorry, that wasnt what I was trying to do and I wasnt trying to disrespect you.
 
Some girls like guys who talk like that, maybe it isnt an effective flirtation tool when used in text opposed to real life?   
The wars we are in now have been planned out for a long time, since 1992, thats documented in the PNAC report.
Its also documented they want wars with Iran and syria so they can build bases in preparation for other future wars with russia and china.
 
Bush had troops, 40,000 of them surrounding Afghanistan on sept 10th, 1 day before sept 11.
Bush is just a puppet for a hard core global crime syndicate setting up a worl government.
 
Whoever is elected next will also follow this plan,
 
Just watch Endgame Barb,
 
 China is the last country in their plan they intend on taking out, Europe and now America are basically in the control of the globalist now. The middle east is a very strategic world location they needed, and now they got it.
Our gov will be in a war with IRAN, one way or another we will attack iran, How do I know? Cuz I read it from the gov documents, Im not making it up, its not an opinion, its written on paper and was written back in 1992. Every thing they wrote in the PNAC report has come true so far, systematically they are carrying it all out and thats why its so freaky crazy to see it happening.
 
Their whole idea is to setup a 1 world government where the people in charge never have their power challenged and they ultimately rule the world.
 
You are a 911 truther right?  Why do you think the gov went thru with 911? It wasnt just something they thought would be good to give us an attitude change, 911 was a foundational event to allow their agenda and the PNAC plan to move forward.
 
   Its documented they wanted a "New Pearl Harbor" so they could transform the usa into the only world super power and reign total domination over the planet.
 
PLEASE just try to watch some of the ENDGAME film, its very very good and lays out the entire plan really well.
 
Im actually watching some of it now again:    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=1070329053600562261&q=endgame&total=2600&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0


 


From: [address removed]
Subject: Re: [9-11-350] What will we do when the elections come, if they come.
To: [address removed]
Date: Tue, 22 Apr[masked]:12:35 -0400

Don't you believe in "climate change" or "global warming"?  Yes I do believe things would be different if Al Gore had been allowed to take his rightful place as President.  We would not be in Iraq and close to invading Iran.
 
I don't like being called dear or sweety, it's very condescending. I also still believe in working within the system.  I'm as angry as anyone about this administration but e-mails aren't the way to have a discussion. 
 
Enough,
 
Barb

 

----- Original Message ----
From: scobman <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Tuesday, April 22,[masked]:57:18 PM
Subject: RE: [9-11-350] What will we do when the elections come, if they come.

Al gore works for the globalists too and is just another puppet for the new world order.
Take a look, Al Gore is the Globalist's global warming, Oh I meant climate change poster boy.
 
Have you noticed, the mainstream media doesnt say global warming anymore cuz this past winter was pretty cold and colder than a few winters ago so now the globalists have ordered the mainstream media to say "Climate change".
Either way they should just call it what it is, a "Global TAX" and a UN power grab of major usa infrastructure in the name of saving the planet.
 
Barb, do you really think things would of been different if Gore was elected?
It doesnt matter what Puppet the globalists put in as our president, their game plan and strategies are the same regardless.
 And our votes dont count, these same criminals own the electronic voting machines that count the votes, its all totally staged to make you think you still have freedom and a voice.
 
Our president doesnt call the shots, he/she only takes specific orders from the Bilderburg group then follows thru with the agenda set forth.
You need to watch ENDGAME my dear, Isnt that right Tim? Its the blueprint for total enslavement and explains every well who runs this planet and has run the planet since before WW1
Here is the link sweety:                http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=1070329053600562261&q=endgame&total=2600&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0 
 
It was 1# on Amazon for over a month, many people paid $25 dollars for it when alex jones released it. But you can see it for FREE courtesy of SCOBMAN. Just click the link then sit back and watch. It also covers how Sterilization was popular in America in the early 1930's.
Did you know that, In america the courts used to order forced sterilizations on citizen who came from bad gene pools, they sterilized entire families. Today we see our gov hinting around about doing that again.
 
   Hitler then adopted and used those same sterilization laws from America to justify exterminating the Jews cuz they were supposely contaminated with communistic thoughts.
 
My dear, WWII history is very very important knowledge you must have to fully understand the globalists agenda.
 
  


From: [address removed]
Subject: Re: [9-11-350] What will we do when the elections come, if they come.
To: [address removed]
Date: Tue, 22 Apr[masked]:32:50 -0400

I hope you're happy with where we are as a country now.  Those that did not vote for Al Gore are responsible for the mess we're in.  (I'm not suggesting you're one.)  I would love to talk with you personally, e-mail doesn't work for a serious discussion.
 
Barb

 

----- Original Message ----
From: harlequin516 <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Tuesday, April 22,[masked]:36:45 PM
Subject: Re: [9-11-350] What will we do when the elections come, if they come.

The system will never be changed by the inside for the benefit of the "outside".  Nobody in power gives up their power willingly.  Power and freedom are taken, not given or received.  I am not above compromise, but its way too early to be working for other people's agendas, than out own.  None of the mainstream candidates give a damn about any of our most important issues. 

Notes:  Mainstream candidates only give our issues lip service, voting records show otherwise, and Ron Paul is not a mainstream candidate, at least not yet.  Ask yourselves why the democrats don't support runoff voting or proportional representation in the electoral college.  (Republican Party doesn't either)  Ask yourselves what is most important to you.  Ask yourselves how important that is to the candidate.  If you are really paying attention, you will see disparity.
-SR

Barbara Njos wrote:

I personally will vote for Obama.  I'll be so glad when the Dem. candidate is selected, & I'm 99% sure it will be Obama, so I can support him totally.  I'm a P.C. and until we have a candidate I can't support anyone.  I know many people aren't happy with the political process and neither am I, but voting for a 3rd party candidate doesn't help anything.  For those who want to change the system, start working on it now.  Hard work, not just protesting.  I protest also but it requires hard work to change the system.  For starters, how about working to eliminate the electoral college?  It requires many petitions, getting the request on the ballot and voters approving it. How about insisting on campaign reform? Remember, not voting, or voting 3rd party is a vote for McCain and we can't allow a Republican to appoint our next Supreme Court Justice. Look at the forrest, not the trees only. There will be many that disagree with me, I know that from many conversations, but the system has to be changed from the inside.
 
Barb

 

----- Original Message ----
From: Timothy Payne <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Tuesday, April 22,[masked]:17:33 PM
Subject: RE: [9-11-350] What will we do when the elections come, if they come.


Hello all fellow citizens:  I'm sorry to bother all of you but I am at a loss!!  Is there a lesser of thee evils and if so who? I would like a idea who you might be voting for if we still have that opportunity?  I thought it was Barak but now I am afraid and unsure!!


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