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Charlotte Philosophy Discussion Group Message Board › Group Marriage

Group Marriage

Bill Van F.
Group Organizer
Charlotte, NC
Post #: 1,790
Is recreational sex a viable part of life for some, and not for others? Should there be any impediments to recreational sex, other than, as is true for all activities, concern about safety?

Could not marriage be retained for those wishing it? Could it be considered a financial legal contract? Should people be able to have the contract state that it was renewable annually, with specification regarding division of assets should renewal not take place? Should there also be something, currently called marriage but perhaps in the future something different, that constitutes a religious interpretation of the relationship, the interpretation being dependent upon the religion?
A former member
Post #: 1,026
the importance to the health of children of having a father.

The Myth of Male Power:
Why Men are the Disposable Sex (Simon and Schuster, 1st Ed., 1993; 2nd Ed., Berkely, 2000) is an internationally best-selling book by Warren Farrell.
In the book, Farrell argues that the widespread perception of men having inordinate social and economic power is false, and that men are actually systematically disadngantaged in many ways.

Despite Farrell's background as the only male elected three times to the Board of Directors of the National Organization for Women's New York City chapter, and a teacher of women's studies,[1] The Myth of Male Power is considered to be a classic in the discipline of men's studies.[2]

Circumcision, Divorce and Male Disposability - Paul Elam on Freedomain Radio

Primal Desire Versus Rational Love - Dr. Warren Farrell Interviewed on Freedomain Radio

Why Men Don't Want To Get Married

A former member
Post #: 1,027

The Philosophy of Marriage and Dating

Real-Time Relationships - The Logic of Love
A former member
Post #: 1,028
How we identify ourselves in our groups and those in other groups determines who or what we consider 'good' or 'bad' outsiders from our own group.

'Stress, Neurodegeneration and Individual Differences' by Robert Sapolsky
outsiders or subordinates of the 'leader' suffer Neurodegeneration

Origins of Violence
the use of violence to minimize violence increases the overall level of violence in human society.

The Codes of Gender

Arguing that advertising not only sells things, but also ideas about the world, media scholar Sut Jhally offers a blistering analysis of commercial culture's inability to let go of reactionary gender representations.

Jhally's starting point is the breakthrough work of the late sociologist Erving Goffman, whose 1959 book The Presentation of the Self in Everyday Life prefigured the growing field of performance studies.

Jhally applies Goffman's analysis of the body in print advertising to hundreds of print ads today, uncovering an astonishing pattern of regressive and destructive gender codes.

By looking beyond advertising as a medium that simply sells products, and beyond analyses of gender that tend to focus on either biology or objectification, The Codes of Gender offers important insights into the social construction of masculinity and femininity, the relationship between gender and power, and the everyday performance of cultural norms.

About how our social construct at times may incorrectly lead us to perceive or in-inadvertently to have us use an incorrect mental cognition to our social environment.

Goffman - Job Interview
By appearing as a member from an acceptable 'out group' may allow entry into another 'group'.
These societal cues are embedded invisibly in our ideologies

How an outsider observes another groups social construct without having the other groups ideology.

Slavoj Žižek on toilets and ideology

This 'District 9' movie explores an in group protaganist leaving his in group and entering the out group.

And how the observer via the fourth wall changes his opinion from detesting the aliens to aligning with the maligned aliens.

District 9 is a 2009 action/thriller film directed by Neill Blomkamp. It was written by Blomkamp and Terri Tatchell, and produced by Peter Jackson and Carolynne Cunningham.
The film stars Sharlto Copley, Jason Cope, and David James.

The film won the 2010 Saturn Award for Best International Film presented by the Academy of Science Fiction, Fantasy & Horror Films,[3] and was nominated for four Academy Awards in 2010: Best Picture, Best Adapted Screenplay, Best Visual Effects, and Best Editing.[4]

The story, adapted from Alive in Joburg, a 2005 short film directed by Blomkamp and produced by Sharlto Copley and Simon Hansen, pivots on the motifs of humanity, xenophobia and social segregation.

The title and premise of District 9 were inspired by events that took place in District Six, Cape Town during the apartheid era.

The film was produced for $30 million and shot on location in Chiawelo, Soweto, presenting fictional interviews, news footage, and video from surveillance cameras in a part-mock documentary style format.

A viral marketing campaign began in 2008, at the San Diego Comic-Con, while the theatrical trailer appeared in July 2009.

Released by TriStar Pictures, the film opened to critical acclaim on August 14, 2009, in North America and earned $37 million in its opening weekend.

Many saw the film as a sleeper hit for achieving success and popularity during its theatrical run, despite a modest budget and relatively unknown cast.

Check out the new full-length trailer for DISTRICT 9

The Philosophy of District 9 - Freedomain Radio Movie Review

A former member
Post #: 1,029
How some environments make people evil rather than the people themselves actually being 'evil'.

The Lucifer Effect: Understanding How Good People Turn Evil - Philip G. Zimbardo

the societal jeopardy facing men

Philip Zimbardo :The demise of guys (2011)

how some societal ideologies may corrupt men's cognitive facilities.

A Question for Men

A former member
Post #: 15
Was Peter Jackson's movie District 9 related to slave Thai fishermen who as men are less valuable than the prawns they fish.

In District 9 'Prawns' are walking 'metaphoric' aliens which no one wants.
No one wants to buy the Prawns labor nor do Prawns produce anything of economic value on their own nor is their an economy where they can go to where their abilities allow them to add value to the economy.

The Earth 'Alien' 'Prawns' consume and reproduce but add no value but endanger turning every economy they touch into a slave economy. District 9 is a zombie movie but about economies..

The homeworld of the District 9 'Prawns' once contained actual 'Fisherman' but everyone turned into 'Prawns' after the economy turned into a slave economy. And the once fishermen now drift planet to planet on a broken space ship?
I'm thinking a bit of Kafka'a the Metamorphosis.
In Kafka's the Metamorphosis a human became physically an insect of some sort.

That protagonist in District 9 metamorphosis into a Prawn and is listened too only when he has the weapons that the Earth people confiscated.

The prawns are stranded on a metaphoric boat, Earth, of which their is no access on that boat to take them to their boat from which they hope to return.

Was the message to be understood in District 9 was to alarm ourselves to not allow economic orphans in the economy to grow? That our world may have a slave economy knocking at its door.

Is District 9 message about economic slave economies making ever bigger slave economies.


Revealed: Asian slave labour producing prawns for supermarkets in US, UK
Thai 'ghost ships' that enslave and even kill workers are linked to global shrimp supply chain, Guardian investigation discovers

Slaves forced to work for no pay for years at a time under threat of extreme violence are being used in Asia in the production of seafood sold by major US, British and other European retailers, the Guardian can reveal.

A six-month investigation has established that large numbers of men bought and sold like animals and held against their will on fishing boats off Thailand are integral to the production of prawns (commonly called shrimp in the US) sold in leading supermarkets around the world, including the top four global retailers: Walmart, Carrefour, Costco and Tesco.

The investigation found that the world's largest prawn farmer, the Thailand-based Charoen Pokphand (CP) Foods, buys fishmeal, which it feeds to its farmed prawns, from some suppliers that own, operate or buy from fishing boats manned with slaves.

Men who have managed to escape from boats supplying CP Foods and other companies like it told the Guardian of horrific conditions, including 20-hour shifts, regular beatings, torture and execution-style killings. Some were at sea for years; some were regularly offered methamphetamines to keep them going. Some had seen fellow slaves murdered in front of them.

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