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Athletes and Plant-Based Nutrition: Real Science from a Registered Dietitian

April 6 · 3:00 PM
Bucktown-Wicker Park Library

Plant-based diets in athletes are extremely popular right now. From ultra endurance triathlete Rich Roll to ultimate fighter Mac Danzig, the public are intrigued and awed by these powerhouse individuals. But can every active person fuel his or her workout without animal products? Are vegan diets healthy and/or advantageous? Learn the answers and more from Matt Ruscigno, a Registered Dietitian, accomplished athlete, and 16-year vegan who works closely with plant-based athletes. He will cover the basics of plant-based sports nutrition, share his experiences, and show clips from his documentary series on vegan athletes, Day in the Life. Whether you are a recreational or professional athlete, or someone who is interested in incorporating more plant-based foods to your diet, this presentation is for you!

Public transportation: Damen blue line, North Ave bus, Damen bus. Library has a small parking lot. Paid and free street parking also available.

Light refreshments will be served and all attendees will receive a free raffle ticket! the raffle prize is a gift basket from FakeMeats.

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robert chlebowski

Michael R,
I've heard from Dave but not Stacy,we're planing to start in two weeks.
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0 · April 11
robert chlebowski

Anyone else for vegetarian/vegan run/cycle club? devon & caldwell,forest preseve trails.

0 · April 8
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- Seri
  
  I am interested in the cycle club or meeting to ride the trails etc.
  
  0 · April 8
- dave
  
  I am interested, though that is a bit far for me. I'd likely bike to get there. But i'd love to grab some amitabul after a long workout. :)
  
  0 · April 8
- Vadim
  
  Robert & Seri - Please post on our message board (http://www.chicagoveg...) to continue discussion on this topic instead of posting on the event page. You also could directly communicate via your profiles if needed. To minimize number of notifications we try to reserve event page comments with comments about the event only.
  
  0 · April 8
- Michael R
  
  I'd be interested in runs or other vegan training events
  
  0 · April 10
Alex Sassani

Just got this info from an MD endurance athlete who is interested in nutrition, but is not a vegan:

Assuming that the ideal non-athlete vegan diet is 80/10/10 Carb/Fat/Protein, for the endurance athlete (anything beyond 4-5 hrs) higher Fat and Protein % is recommended as the body cannot store enough Glucose (Glycogen) for the entire event (beyond 4-5 hrs). Of course, things get more ocmplex. Moreover, some experts have begun to question the higher fat and protein % recommendations.

0 · April 10
Alex Sassani

Carolyn, will check on the links later.....I feel bad that this whole thing has gotten out of hand. I apologize to you, Matt, and everyone on this site. Still, u mean to tell me that Matt didn't register for any of his LA marathons? (2006, 2007, 2008)? His name didn't show up on any of them.

0 · April 10
- Elizabeth Tampe
  
  I feel Matt has handled the criticism extremely well with poise and without becoming defensive which is not always easy to do
  
  4 · April 10
Carolyn

Matt emailed me that he did run the LA marathon without registering but he wanted me to post links to where you can find the results of other races he's done.

Vineman where you run a marathon at the end: http://www.j-chipusa.com/result...

My ultrarunning results: http://ultrasignup.com/results_...

4 · April 10
Carolyn

Matt's response continued...

In the future I will consider adding in and citing some of these professional recommendations as well. For those who want even more in depth info I do provide a slide toward the end with where to get it.
Re my weight- I've never been super skinny! Usually I'm complemented that I'm not a 'scrawny vegan' but I guess I can't please everyone!
Thanks again to all who came and best of luck on your nutrition and/or athletic journeys.

-Matt

3 · April 8
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- Alex Sassani
  
  Matt thank u for coming to Chicago, ur talk, and the response. It is not fair to compare you to a Jeff Novack or a Neil Bernard. Point is if u want to make lecturing a cornerstone of ur practice, ur presentation much be airtight and more polished. Finally regarding the BMI... It is the "talk the talk; walk the walk" issue. Peace
  
  0 · April 9
- dave
  
  Alex, i look forward to your list of athletic accomplishments and achievements promoting healthy diet so we can jude how you're "Walking the walk".
  
  1 · April 9
- dave
  
  Or even just your speaking and presentation credentials.
  
  0 · April 9
- Alex Sassani
  
  Dave I was just an audience member... Without claims of any expertise or achievement... I wasn't the one giving a lecture or claiming to be an expert..... I am not the one travelling the country giving lectures to 100s or thousands of people.... Please understand my comments are not an attack on Matt. I don't know Matt. He is probably a nice guy and I don't work for the meat industry. For u or anyone taking these comments as personal attack is misguided.
  
  1 · April 9
- Maria
  
  Alex, it takes real courage to speak out and express one's opinions. I applaud your courage as well as your finesse in fielding remarks in response to your expressing them.
  
  1 · April 9
- Alex Sassani
  
  Maria, thank ufor ur support. I really appreciate your comments. Of course from the first post, I could've choosen better words. Still, didnt realize people would react so negatively to honest const comments. Checked out LA Marathon's "race results" website to confirm Matt R's claims of running LAM. His name didn't come up. At this point, I am not sure if Matt ran those marathons or not. If he is going to present himself as an expert in this field, he must make sure all his claims are supported and airtight. If he becomes a prominent figure in this movement and years later some journalist uncovers his false claims. The whole vegan community will have an egg on its face. Finally, the meat industry is very skilled and powerful. it Matt is ever to become somebody in the vegan health movement, he needs to develop a thick skin and handle criticism with finesse, class, and honesty.
  
  2 · April 10
Pete

I had to voice my appreciation to ALL the organizers AND Matt. Thanks for your efforts. Here's an article with more basic info: http://livinggreenmag.com/2013/...

1 · April 10
Alex Sassani

Dave, in case you are interested, the link below is for the official LA marathon race results. Matt's website claims he has run it several times (2006,7,8). Yet his name is not on the list. At least I can't find it. Could you help me find his name on the list? If you can find his name on the list, I will donate $100 to Matt's website.

As vegans the last thing we need to fight among ourselves, but since some have made this personal, I just wanted to verify Matt R's claims for myself.

http://results.active.com/event...

0 · April 9
- dave
  
  I know i shouldn't respond, but on his website, he makes it clear he ran bandit ( ie, with an old bib and no chip ). http://truelovehealth...
  
  2 · April 9
kinstelli

I was glad to attend. Matt's a likeable guy, and I liked his personable, personal, informal style. It was kind of him to come and speak.

I know nutrition is a huge topic, and it's impossible to include everything. I was surprised, however, that so much of the beginning of the talk seemed tailored to non-vegans, at least for this crowd.

I also realize this wasn't the purpose of his talk, but I was actually hoping for a little more detailed discussion on topics that vegans athletes are always told to worry about, like:

- Muscle growth and repair in vegans vs. non-vegans
- long-chain Omega-3 fatty acids
- B-12, D3/D2, Choline, and Calcium
- popular supplements, like MSM/Glucosamine

Maybe these could be included in a Part 2?

0 · April 9
mary ann

Hello and Thank you,

I have to say my cup is not half empty but half full with almond milk. What I mean, is I came away with more information and affirmation that a plant based diet is essential for optimum health, even as an athlete. Affirmation is always a good thing and Matt's field of expertise is nutrition. We are always building on what we know when we come with an open mind. Perceptions are sometimes what narrows our sense of focus and we don't see the big picture of what the presenter is trying to achieve. If some one doesn't meet your expectations it may mean that you came with preceived ideas of athletes and plant based diets. If he peeked your interest in learning more than he did his job of making you aware and planted a seed. Maybe that seed was brocolli lol .

Thank you Carole and Vadim as always for your true dedication to the cause.

Truly, Mary Ann

3 · April 8
Carolyn

Hi All,

Below is a response that Matt sent me to post. I'm going to post it in 2 separate comments because this field has a limit. Thanks again to everyone for coming out on Saturday!

First off I want to thank everyone for coming and those who have given constructive criticism on my presentation. Also glad to see it has started a discussion!
In regard to citing my percentages of carbs, pro, and fat: my numbers are based on my 10 years as an RD reading the literature, working with plant-based athletes and competing as a vegan athlete. The reason I don't cite any specific studies/organizations/people is because there is such a range of valid recommendations and within this range there is significant variety between and amongst individuals. Also I don't want people to get hung up on specific numbers- which is part of the theme of my presentation. I picked Carmichael as representative of a popular recommendation only to show that it can easily be met on plants.

3 · April 8
Vadim

Good news! I just spoke with Carolyn and we will plan a similar event (or possibly a serious of the events) to allow more time for questions and discussions.

3 · April 8
Alex Sassani

There wasn't as much "real science" as I expected. Specifically, the lecturer kept mentioning the Carb/Fat/Protein ratio intake that Lance Armstrong's coach prefers, but he couldn't offer any science or data why that is better than any other ratio. Also, all the vegan endurance athletes I know are relatively skinny. The lecturer wasn't.

1 · April 7
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- Pythia Ford
  
  I noticed poor quality nutrition - too much sugar (gummy snakes, etc) what ever the source and the use of powdered protein supplements in addition to being relatively thin.. How do vegetarian athletes compare to other athletes when in the same sport? Just curious - and thanks to all the organizers.
  
  1 · April 7
- Sarah Hlavacek
  
  I'm surprised at some of the judgemental statements in the above posts...endurance athletes, just like people in general, can come in all shapes and sizes. The main objective of food taken in during endurance events is to provide quick, easily digestable energy. I don't know that he was specifically promoting the recommendations of Lance's coach, but using it as an example to reiterate that massive amounts of protien are not recommended by even coaches of omnivore athletes.
  
  5 · April 7
- dave
  
  Yeah, the fact that he didn't want to derail his entire lecture to discuss one coach's specific ratios doesn't mean he has no science behind his points. He pointed out lance's coach's ratio is easy to hit while vegan and it's almos the same as the ADA numbers and paleo endurance recommendations.
  
  5 · April 7
- Jack
  
  I agree with you Sarah & Dave. Some of you "real scientists" seem to forget that there's a lot of confusing, misleading, and false messages out there (anyone know someone on Atkin's? Have an MD tell you you'll die as a vegan?) that get thrown at vegans/vegetarians all the time. Matt gave an excellent presentation to a large audience that likely does not have a background in dietetics or athletic performance. It was well worth the $20 I donated on his website.
  
  5 · April 7
- Kirsten
  
  I think this comment is rude. This was a presentation about healthy nutrition, not weight loss. I don't think one has to be super skinny to be healthy and Matt looked like he's in good shape and has done enough endurance races to prove it. There was enough real science in there for me, along with references to read up on it. How much more can you cover in an hour?? More data would have made it harder to follow for people without a background in nutrition.
  
  3 · April 7
- Alex Sassani
  
  Kristen, sorry I offended you. For me, the presentation left a lot to be desired. A friend of mine has loaned me DVDs with lectures from Jeff Novack, RD, Dr. Niel Bernard, and Dr. Esselstyn. Those lectures are much more science based, much more informative and actionable. Also, although perfect BMI does not necessarily mean one is healthy, BMIs below 20 or above 25 does mean one is unhealthy. Finally, all this is my opinion....and Matt's video was very enjoyable.
  
  1 · April 8
- Alex Sassani
  
  Dave, I asked only one question about where is the "real science" behind the Carb/fat/protein ratio he was partially promoting. Didn't want to derail his lecture so I left it alone out of respect for him and the audience. Is it wrong to think and ask questions? Whether it is Lance Armstrong's coach, an RD, a professor, or an MD telling me something.
  
  1 · April 8
- Alex Sassani
  
  I like to ask questions and think for myself.
  
  1 · April 8
- dave
  
  I think you are confusing a lecture designed for the general populace and people curious about cutting down and eliminating meat & meat products with one designed for elite athletes willing to make major adjustments to improve by a few %. Remember, someone asked where the protein in broccoli & pasta was.
  
  1 · April 8
- Alex Sassani
  
  Dear Dave, I don
  
  0 · April 8
- Alex Sassani
  
  Dear Dave, I eat plenty of healthy food up to 4-5 lbs daily without ever counting cal or %. The point is when an "expert" ie an RD is lecturing us, his/her comments should be well thought out and his/her claims well supported with evidence or reason. Many comments he made seemed more haphazard than anything else. If he wants to make a career out of lecturing on this topic, he needs to do better. having said all this, lecturing is hard. For sure, I couldn't do what he is doing. Peace.
  
  1 · April 8
- Yoav
  
  I agree that the comment that the lecturer wasn't lean is irrelevant. He ran a marathon "unintentionally" and does 24 hour bike races... However, Alex's comment re the lack of science is correct. My experience is that most people who talk about nutrition, whether vegan or otherwise, don't base their statement on data (e.g., what is the recommended carb/fat/protein ratio based on?). It's more like beliefs... One reason is that the issue is very complex and not a lot is known. For people who are interested in trying to understand the topic better, I recommend that they do their own research in reliable sources. It's worth looking in the sources he listed to see what kind of info they give. One of the best sources is PCRM that gives links to scientific papers. I give the speaker credit for being very engaging and a good advocate of veganism. At the same time, I also recommend removing the junk food (e.g., the vegan diner breakfast) from the lecture... And thank you to the organizers!
  
  2 · April 8
- Vadim
  
  Alex - Unlike some other people I don't find your statement judgmental or rude. I see it as simply sharing your honest opinion which is expected and appreciated. However, I find it a little unfair to compare the presentation with Jeff Novack's, Bernard's, or Esselstyn's DVDs. First of all, DVDs have usually much more polished presentations. Second, I hope we could come to this level of renowned presenters, but I doubt it would be a free event like this. In fact it would probably be pretty costly. I hope as many people will come though! :)
  I also hope that we will have an opportunity to plan more time for our future events to address more in-depth questions. I realize that we did not have enough time to cover as much as most of us wanted. My apologies as being on the event planning team and thank you for your constrictive feedback!
  
  3 · April 8
- Vadim
  
  I meant constructive (not constrictive) :)
  
  0 · April 8
robert chlebowski

Is there a vegetarian/vegan run or cycle club on the north side?

0 · April 7
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- Ken Mick
  
  There's a Chicago area originated Facebook Group for vegan ultrarunners that may interest you: http://www.facebook.c...
  
  0 · April 7
- Stacy
  
  I had that question, myself. Would love to meet other vegan/vegetarian runners in Chicago. My max distance thus far has been half-marathons.
  
  0 · April 8
- Vadim
  
  Stacy - Please feel free to fully utilize our message board (http://www.chicagoveg...) and hopefully get connected with the like-minded people.
  
  0 · April 8
Pythia Ford

I too had a few questions, Hopefully, it's ok to have questions and express it without fear of hurt feelings. The reason I attend nutrition meetings is to learn and decide for myself what will work for me. I would hope that this group would be open to helping and sharing with one another.

2 · April 8
- Alex Sassani
  
  Thank you Pythia :-)
  
  0 · April 8
- Vadim
  
  I hope so, Pythia. As Maria will post some info on the discussion board, we can take the opportunity to use the discussion thread for addressing and discussing more questions for those who are interested.
  
  1 · April 8
Denice Shuty

Since the event has such a long waiting list I hope someone will share the information afterward with those of us who couldn't join the event.

2 · April 5
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- Maria
  
  I'll try to post my notes next week. Can anyone advise best format to make it accessible to everyone?
  
  0 · April 6
- dave
  
  Thank you maria, that would be wonderful. :) Do you have access to google docs? Or evernote?
  
  0 · April 6
- Maria
  
  Sorry but I'm not familiar with either of these, Dave.
  
  0 · April 7
- Vadim
  
  Maria - I suggest you post on our message board: http://www.chicagoveg...
  
  1 · April 7
- Maria
  
  Thanks, Vadim. I will look into it when time allows this week (I hope).
  
  1 · April 8
- Vadim
  
  Thank you, Maria, for your willingness to share some info with those who did not have a chance to attend. We could also use it as a good opportunity to move some discussions on this event page to the discussion board. :)
  
  0 · April 8
Vadim

Thank you very much everyone who organized and attended this great event!

Here is some follow up info about speakers, organizers, and sponsors:
To get in touch with Matt Ruscigno: http://truelovehealth.com/about
To get in touch with Carolyn Tampe:
http://aeonnutrition.com/aboutu...
If any of you got inspired to become vegan and would like some support and mentoring: http://www.meetup.com/ChicagoVe...
Thanks to this event sponsors:
http://www.FakeMeats.com and http://www.CobraCorn.com
We will post some evet photos shortly here and on our Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/Chicago...

Looking forward to see all of you at our upcoming events (http://www.ChicagoVeg.org)!

3 · April 6
- dave
  
  Thank you, Vadim, for putting on this very interesting event! :)
  
  0 · April 6
- Stacy
  
  Thank you so much - this event was fantastic!
  
  0 · April 8
Marielle

Interesting event! I appreciated that Matt emphasized that a preferred diet can vary from one athlete to another and it doesn't have to be so complicated. I found that encouraging. I enjoyed that video portion and I'm glad he shared that with the group.

2 · April 7
Sarah Hlavacek

I don't make it to many meetup because I live in NW Indiana and often times the times/dates don't mesh well with my schedule...but I was really glad I made it to this one! Great info and I was even able to bring along a curious omnivore who also benefited from the info. Thanks for all who contribute to these events!

6 · April 7
Ella

Thank you for organizing this event, the info was very helpful and interesting. A suggestion for Matt - include APA citations in your ppt.

0 · April 7
Alex Sassani

Putting these events together takes much more time and effort than meets the eye. Thank u Vadim, Carolyn, and every one else who helped.

3 · April 7
Mary Ann

this was great, but needed more time for Q&A

1 · April 6
Carolyn

http://truelovehealth.com/dayin...

Thank you to the 100 or so people who came out! I want to remind everyone that Matt did this talk for free and is traveling on his own funds. If you can make a donation to him or the Day in the Life of Vegan Athletes series it will go a long way!
You can do so on the righthand side of his site above.
Thank you so much!

0 · April 6
Kirsten

This was great. Lots of good information. Thank you for putting this event together and thanks Matt for the very entertaining and informative talk.

1 · April 6
Maria

I'm raw vegan, and wish there had been more info on that front. Otherwise, interesting and informative. Thanks Matt, volunteers, organizers, and folks who donated.

0 · April 6
Bobbie

I'm so sorry I wasn't able to attend, but I did make the attempt. I decided that since it was so nice out, I'd walk it from Lincoln Pk. But the wind got the better of me around North & Elston...major dust/dirt storm kicked up. I'm sure it was a great event...hopefully next time.

0 · April 6
Alan

cleaning up water leak in basement, sigh.

0 · April 6
Rosalinda

Tried to make sure I'd get off of work in time, but it simply didn't work. Enjoy!

0 · April 5
Diana

Some of us on the waiting list still didn't get in.

1 · April 4
- Vadim
  
  Sorry, Diana. Everyone on the Waiting list gets notifications about newly opened spots. Whoever responds first, gets the spot. Please watch your emails closely in case someone else cancel their RSVP.
  
  1 · April 4
Vadim

Due to a long Waiting list we increased the RSVP limit to 120! It will hopefully accommodate the most of the people. If you are on the Waiting list use "Change your mind?" link (above the RSVP list) to get on the RSVP list.

0 · April 3
Minku

I'd like to add a guest, but it looks like this event is full...

0 · April 2
- Vadim
  
  Minku - We will be adding a few more seats shortly. Everyone on the Waiting list will get a notification and RSVP will be available on "First Click - First RSVP" basis.
  
  0 · April 2
Kartik Vashishta

I will be distributing free Sri Rudraksha beads to those interested in health effects of natural beads. These are original from Nepal.

1 · April 1
- Shervon C.
  
  very cool! thanks Kartik!
  
  0 · April 2
- Vadim
  
  Kartik - Please read here http://www.chicagoveg... before considering to distribute anything at the event.
  
  0 · April 2
Vadim

Thanks to everyone who RSVP'd - The event organizers are excited to see you at the event! The event is currently full and we have a few people on the Waiting list. Please be considered to others and change your RSVP to "No" in advance if you can not make it so someone else could have a chance to take your spot. To limit the number of "no-shows" the Three Strikes policy (http://www.ChicagoVeg.org/pages...) is in the effect. We hope to see all of you at the event!

1 · March 31
Sarah Hlavacek

I plan to bring someone with me...can you count them via this post? They are not a member of meetup...thanks!

1 · March 26
- Vadim
  
  Sarah - Please change your RSVP to add one guest.
  
  0 · March 26
Maria

It says there are 19 spots available, but there is no rsvp "button" to click.

0 · March 25
- Watcher
  
  Maria - If you are on the Waiting list, you would not see the RSVP button as anyone else who has not RSVP yet, instead it would be a link "Change your RSVP" or someting above the RSVP list.
  
  1 · March 25
- Maria
  
  The wording had confused me. It actually says "Change your mind?" And so I thought that would just take me off the wait list without an option to rsvp. Thank you!
  
  0 · March 25
Bruce Jones

Why isn't registration automatic for those waiting to get registered? I want to attend.

0 · March 24
- View all 3 replies
- Vadim
  
  Bruce - The Waiting List is "Manual": Email send to everyone on the Waiting list as soon as a spot opens and it's on "first click first get" principal. The advantage is that if a next person on the Waiting list already changed his/her mind it won't move it to the RSVP list automatically but let other people who still want to come to RSVP.
  
  0 · March 24
- Marc Kupfer
  
  so I am on the attending list. Do i need to show ID at the door or something to get in?
  
  0 · March 24
- Vadim
  
  Marc - So far we have not had a problem with "an identity thief" so we will be just asking names of the attendees by the door to check them off the RSVP list.
  
  0 · March 24
Rosalinda

What a great venue. Hopefully there will be another one such as this in the near future. It's spring and we are ready to get out there and do it!

1 · March 24
Claudia

My husband Chris will be attending in my stead. Thanks!

0 · March 21
Ashlee

Can't wait - sounds awesome!

1 · March 20
- Haz
  
  Yes. Plant Power!
  
  1 · March 20
Marc Kupfer

I didn't realize this was 'extremely' popular these days. I got into it thinking i was special. =]

1 · March 20
Martha Rauch

Really looking forward to this!!

1 · March 20
- Mikael
  
  Me too :-)
  
  1 · March 20

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