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Re: [rockclimbing-111] Re: FW: NEW YORK

From: Danielle
Sent on: Wednesday, June 9, 2010 11:46 AM
Honestly? I'm sorry, but I don't see what any of this has to do with rock climbing. I am choosing to receive emails from this group because I'd like to be updated on meetings, and anything else that Jeff might need to let us know. Let's not make this into a debate about politics.

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Oleg <[address removed]> wrote:
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I agree freedom of speech etc. However I noticed that Jeff always forwards some emails with caustic jokes about foreigners living in US. It reminds me?a movie 'Suburbia' where one retired from the army guy was blaming foreigners in his?poor life. Just a thought, Jeff you are always on the side of this guy. Did foreigners take any opportunities away from you??And if they did, who was it? A taxi driver or a Mexican on a fruit plantation?
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Oleg
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p.s. I never met with anyone in rockclimbing and am not looking forward to....still learning ENGLISH
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff
To: [address removed]
Sent: Wednesday, June 09,[masked]:43 AM
Subject: RE: [rockclimbing-111] Re: FW: NEW YORK

Jeff,

You shouldn't have to apologize for offending anyone or refrain from sending out a politically-based email. ?That's exactly what is wrong with this country. ?People get offended by the slightest things and expect others to conform to their liking. ?Screw that! ?It started with gov't control of free speech and actions and has slowly evolved to individuals and unfortunately it is those individuals that continue to take away our rights in this country. ?Frankly, I liked your email and passed it on to friends and family. ?I personally got a good laugh out of it. ??

And for anyone else on this list that did receive Jeff's email and was offended. ?That's what a delete button is for. ?You have a choice to either read it or not. ?Maybe before you go responding to emails and telling us all how upset you became while reading it, try hitting the delete button and keeping your mouth shut! ?It's call FREEDOM! ?If you don't like it, then go find some other place to reside, because in the US, we have the right to pass along or say whatever we want without having to listen to people like yourself bitch about your feelings and expect others to be sympathetic to you and conform. ?

Jeff... I enjoy the emails you send and hope to keep receiving them. ?For the others that don't, screw 'em. ?Let them remove themselves from the email listing if they don't like being a part of it. ?It's their CHOICE. ?And while they're at it, maybe they'll learn to have a sense of humor, too.


-----Original Message-----
From: jeff
Sent: Jun 8, 2010 10:57 PM
To: [address removed]
Subject: RE: [rockclimbing-111] Re: FW: NEW YORK

Sorry to all, I keep forgetting that the rock group is on my list.? I will not send anything like this again.? Sorry if this type of humor offends anybody.

> Subject: [rockclimbing-111] Re: FW: NEW YORK
> From: [address removed]
> To: [address removed]
> Date: Tue, 8 Jun[masked]:17:16 -0400
>
> Hi Jeff-
>
> I'm writing in response to the message you forwarded to the group
> earlier (copied below). For starters, I had hard time seeing how the
> message was in any way related to rock climbing. I have to be honest,
> as I read through the jingoism, I became increasingly upset. However,
> since those weren't your words (nor are they Robin Williams' words as
> the message suggests...save for the last bit about Lady Liberty), I
> won't take the time to respond to each blatantly ignorant point.
>
> -Al
>
> P.S. Perhaps we'll meet in person soon. I planned to make it
> tomorrow, but I'm attending a friend's going away dinner-- the good
> friend happens to be an international student over the age of 21 (see
> point 5 below), a Fulbright Scholar, and far from a threat to our
> national security.
>
>
>
>
> YOU HAVE TO
> LOVE HIM....A MUST READ...READ THIS!
> HE
> MADE THIS SPEECH IN NEW
> YORK
> .
>
> The
> Plan!
> ?
> Robin
> Williams, wearing a shirt that says 'I love
> New
> York ' in
> Arabic.
>
> You
> gotta love Robin Williams........Even if he's nuts!
> Leave it to Robin Williams to come up with the
> perfect plan. What we need now is for our UN
> Ambassador to stand up and repeat this
> message.
> Robin
> Williams' plan...(Hard to argue with this
> logic!)
>
> 'I see a lot of people
> yelling for peace but I have not heard of a plan for
> peace. So, here's one plan.'
>
> 1)
> 'The US/ UK /
> AUSTRALIA
> will apologize to the world for our
> 'interference' in their affairs, past & present.
> You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Tojo, Noriega,
> Milosevic, Hussein, and the rest of those 'good
> 'ole' boys', we will never 'interfere'
> again.
>
> 2) We will withdraw our
> troops from all over the world, starting with
> Germany ,
> South
> Korea , the Middle East ,
> and the Philippines
> . They don't want us there. We would station troops
> at our borders. No one allowed sneaking through
> holes in the fence.
>
> 3) All
> illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs
> together and leave We'll give them a free trip home.
> After 90 days the remainder will be gathered up and
> deported immediately, regardless of whom or where
> they are from. They're illegal!!!
> France
> will welcome
> them..
>
> 4)
> All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and
> limited to 90 days unless given a special permit!!!!
> No one from a terrorist nation will be allowed in.
> If you don't like it there, change it yourself and
> don't hide here. Asylum would never be available to
> anyone. We don't need any more cab drivers or 7-11
> cashiers.
>
> 5) No foreign
> 'students' over age 21. The older ones are the
> bombers. If they don't attend classes, they get a
> 'D' and it's back home baby.
>
> 6)
> The US /UK/
> Australia
> will make a strong effort to become
> self-sufficient energy wise. This will include
> developing nonpolluting sources of energy but will
> require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan
> wilderness. The caribou will have to cope for a
> while
>
> 7) Offer
> Saudi
> Arabia and
> other oil producing countries $10 a barrel for their
> oil. If they don't like it, we go someplace else.
> They can go somewhere else to sell their production.
> (About a week of the wells filling up the storage
> sites would be enough.)
> 8)
> If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in
> the world, we will not 'interfere.' They can pray to
> Allah or whomever, for seeds, rain, cement or
> whatever they need. Besides most of what we give
> them is stolen or given to the army. The people who
> need it most get very little, if
> anything.
>
> 9) Ship the UN
> Headquarters to an isolated island someplace.
> We don't need the spies and fair weather friends
> here. Besides, the building would make a good
> homeless shelter or lockup for illegal
> aliens.
>
> 10) All Americans must go
> to charm and beauty school. That way, no one can
> call us 'Ugly Americans' any longer. The Language we
> speak is ENGLISH..learn it...or LEAVE...Now, isn't
> that a winner of a plan?
> 'The
> Statue of Liberty is no
> longer saying 'Give me your tired, your poor, your
> huddled masses.' She's got a baseball bat and she's
> yelling, 'you want a piece of
> me?'
>
>
> If
> you agree with the above, forward it to friends...If
> not, and I would be amazed if you DELETED
> it!!
>
>
>
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