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Re: [Clojadelphia] SICP, discussion consolidation, and the Google Group

From: Tim V.
Sent on: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 1:27 AM
FWIW, I would vote to kill the Google Group as it's only marginally
better than Meetups lists, IMHO. But that's only my 2¢.

On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Paul Snyder <[address removed]> wrote:
> Unfortunately, things may be getting even more scattered for the
> discussions of SICP. As was brought up during tonight's SICP 1.1 session,
> some are buried in event discussions, some are on the Clojadelphia meetup
> main discussion list, and some are in the SICP-specific Google Group...and
> posts to the Google Group are not getting responses.
> I just discovered that, when I joined the Google Group, my settings
> defaulted to "no email delivery", so I had no idea that anyone was actually
> sending messages to the list.  Simply trying to find my way back to the
> Google Group was a pain.
> I'm not at all a fan of Meetup's approach to is difficult
> to navigate, and by its nature it facilitates fragmentation and shallow
> online conversations. This is even worse once the Google Group is added
> into the mix, since many people who may be interested in the SICP
> discussions may not be members of the Google Group. The splintering of some
> of the discussions to sublists also reduces the coherence of the
> community.
> I'm much more a fan of having everyone receive everything, and if they
> aren't interested in particular things they can simply delete the messages
> they don't find relevant, create a filter, or set digest mode to wrap
> multiple messages into a single email. The result is that community members
> have an ambient awareness of the types of conversations that are happening,
> along with the personalities of those who are participating in them. This
> helps build a strong community.
> I'm not sure what the solution is, but if we're sticking with the current
> setup I'd suggest:
>   (a) Making sure that links to the Google Group are prominent in all SICP-
>   related Meetup announcements.
>   (b) When someone makes a useful SICP-related post and sends it to the
>   Clojadelphia group, someone should suggest that he or she should cc: it
>   to the Google Group.
>   (c) If you're subscribed to the Google Group and do not regularly access
>   the web interface, make sure you've set one of the email notification
>   options so you stay abreast of new discussions.
>   (d) All discussions of *scheduling* of times for SICP meetups should be
>   done through the Meetup site (or at least cc'd to the main Clojadelphia
>   meetup discussion list).
> Annoyingly, the awful Google Groups web interface makes it almost
> impossible to figure out how to send messages to it via email. Once you're
> subscribed, email can be sent to
>   [address removed]
> For general Clojadelphia discussion, the main Meetup mailing list address
> is
>   [address removed]
> Paul
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