Black Hills Campout /Backpack with Bison in the Bad Lands

 DATES:

Arrival Date: Fri May[masked]

Departure Date: Tue May[masked]

Length of Stay: 4

LIMIT total trip - 15 camping and Backpacking!!!

• We rented 3 sites 

BASE Campground: GRIZZLY CREEK PRIMITIVE

      TO GO PLEASE READ the whole posting AND COMPLETE the following:

• · RSVP YES- on to the waiting list

• · Complete the form

• https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1_msKPzWwIy4duufeRhT5Er2ABKLth_fQitlYdlgq1JA/viewform

• •we will email you the next steps 

• · COST $20 for camp site non-refundable –  We will send each person an email confirming their choice and you will have 7 days to have the $ paid!!!

• · Max for the purchased sites 6 campers

• · Max tent unknown... Recommend if you know someone… bunk it up!

• · Other expenses... gas and vehicle expenses, meals, park fees (i.e. Badlands), 10 cents for coffee at Wall drugs, other sites (i.e. Mammoth Dig),

• · Car pooling – Driver make it clear on how the expenses are to be paid Prior to the trip

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• MAJOR CHANGES Due to the Camp site and other findings…..

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                                                            THE WHOLE TRIP:

                                                                  Fri May[masked]

• · Arrive at Campsite between 12:03 pm and 1:12 pm

• · Afternoon play time….

• ·  Start at 5:30 pm - Evening Happy hour, campfire and meet and greet  - campers planning, backpackers mini meeting, smiles, and munchies, BYOB and bring a munchies to share with the group

• · Hit the sack early - if you want (but be ready in the AM of left behind!)

                                                                     Sat May 17th 2014

• 7:03 am – pack up cars

• 7:36 am - head to Badlands Nat. Park

• 9:00 am – hit Wall Drug for last minute needs and to see it - 510 Main St., Wall, SD; (605)[masked];                                                               walldrug.com

• 9:30 am - leave to Badlands

                              • This is where the group splits!!! Important

                

                           Group A (CAMPERS) –

· Will Do the National Park and poss. A full day hike (recommending the 6 mile Castle Trail Across the center of the park (shuttle cars)

· They will return to the Campsite later that day / evening

              

                          Group B (BACKPACKERS) – will start the Over night

Backpack in on the reverse route as most people do the loop

We will only be doing one night (so less water required (recommended 2 gallons)

As we will not be doing the “loop” and it is just an in and out – water can be placed (stashed) on the way in for use on the way out.

I have no final destination is planned... We’ll hike as long or short as we feel like it as a group – the most tired or overheated backpacker will be the judge (most likely me)  (we could break up in to two groups , as well, as people want to go different distances

We will set up camp and if people would like to day hike out of camp that is cool. (Chase bison look for the antelope bone yards, find the ultimate grass patch to sit in!!)

(Note risk: lighting, if it storms, rattlesnakes, and heat – if these concern you considered doing just the camping side of the group trip)


                                                                    Sun May 18th 2014

                 

       Group A (CAMPERS) –

· Will Do the National Parks and hikes – etc – this will be arranged at the camp site on FRIDAY

· RECOMMENDED – Mammoth Dig (I thought it would be lame... it is really cool and worth it), Mount Rushmore then Crazy horse (in that order), Needles, Custer State Park – drive or hike Tons of Bison and antelope along the roads in the past.

                                 

                  Group B (BACKPACKERS) –  

· Plan to start hiking out about 8:08 am (means Packed and starting to hike at 8:07am

· We’ll hike out drive through the rest of the park… check out the over looks and walk ways...

· Head home – maybe stop by Wall Drug for a Dine Coffee and free bumper sticker! Back to Camp


                                                                   Monday May 19th 2014

· ALL BACK TOGETHER AGAIN – doing things -see Sunday for Campers…

· One last happy hour!


                                                          Tuesday May 20th 2014

GO HOME – well you don’t have to go but you can’t stay here!

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Dirty Detail - 

Lila and I have rented 3 sites:

Problem is each site is only suppose to have on car and 8 people max (yea great math – Rec.gov)

We are GUESSING – we can get 2 cars on a driveway and multiple tents. This does not mean we are correct. We WILL ENCOURAGE Car pooling and or we will have to shuttle campers into the area (parking unknown) - We will want to know drivers who can take 3 or more people with them and gear –

 

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      TO GO PLEASE  COMPLETE - REPEATED from above 

• · RSVP YES- on to the waiting list

• · Complete the form

•  https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1_msKPzWwIy4duufeRhT5Er2ABKLth_fQitlYdlgq1JA/viewform

•we will email you the next steps 

• · COST $20 for camp site non-refundable –  We will send each person an email confirming their choice and you will have 7 days to have the $ paid!!!

• · Max for the purchased sites 6 campers

• · Max tent unknown... Recommend if you know someone… bunk it up!

· Other expenses... gas and vehicle expenses, meals, park fees (i.e. Badlands), 10 cents for coffee at Wall drugs, other sites (i.e. Mammoth Dig),

· Car pooling – Driver make it clear on how the expenses are to be paid Prior to the trip

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~BACKPACK~~~~ PART~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Jeff Dillavou~~~~~~~~~~~

we'll only be doing 2 day and in and out version of this trip listed below (3 gallons / 24 lbs of water is not fun to carry) - I would love someone to assist me on the detail planning and mapping of this backpacker part as mapping and planning could be tricky!!! - if you can assist me  - email me  - [masked] 

http://www.backpacker.com/2007/ripngopdfs/november09/ripngo_sagecreek.pdf

The frontier lives on in Badlands National Park's Sage Creek Wilderness Area. Bison and pronghorn roam freely on prairies riddled with labyrinthine washes and surrounded by rock pinnacles. And so will you on this three-day, 22-mile loop. From the backcountry trailhead (1) at the Conata Picnic Area, 12 miles south of Wall, head southwest through knee-high grass (watch for rattlers), skirting the base of the Badlands formations and the occasional pronghorn boneyard. 

After two miles, pass through a gated barbed-wire fence(2) and veer northwest toward a clutch of rock spires. Just over a mile later, climb gravel mounds into Deer Haven(3), a juniper-lined oasis amid the spires. Camp on a flat gravel bench in this natural amphitheater (there are no designated sites on this route). On day two, weave through juniper stands and ascend .2 mile to a narrow ridge (4), the route's high point at 2,900 feet.

Descend into a steep wash pocked with mud puddles and bison prints. Follow several snaking bends northwest to a T-junction at mile 4.1 (5); turn left. At mile six, bear left where a dry creekbed enters on the right (6); leave the wash .6 mile later (7). Then traverse the Sage Creek Basin, a 3.5-mile-wide grassland veined with gullies. Stop for lunch at a grass-lined pond (the route's lone water source) (8) 8.2 miles into the loop. In 3.4 miles, hike west into Tyree Basin; spend night two here (9)

On the last day, navigate south-southeast through a maze of drainages to Sage Creek Pass (10), a large gap in the Badlands formations. At mile 15.5, angle east along a private ranch's fenceline before ducking under another north-south running fence (11) blocking the route. Descend to Conata Basin for the three-mile stretch back to the first gate and the trail to Conata Picnic Area.



Trip Planner

Driving
From Wall, take SD 240 south for 11 miles. Turn right onto Conata Basin Rd. In 1.1 mile, turn right onto Badlands Loop Rd. and follow it to the backcountry access parking area at the Conata Picnic Area.

Map
USGS quads: Wall SW, Quinn Table SE ($8 per quad,store.usgs.gov)

Gear Up
Nearby roadside attraction Wall Drug also stocks a variety of last- minute supplies such as white gas, duct tape, sunscreen, and batteries. 510 Main St., Wall, SD; (605)[masked]; walldrug.com




Key Gear: Hydration Bags

Water sources in the Badlands are few and far between. And even if you're tempted to filter the chocolate-brown mud puddles and silty pools that dot the washes, it's a lost cause: The high sediment content of the water makes it undrinkable. To stay hydrated, hikers must pack in all of their water–at least one gallon per person per day

Badlands Weather Averages



The Old West lives on in Badlands National Park's remote Sage Creek Wilderness Area. Home to herds of roaming bison and pronghorn—and surrounded by pinnacled rock formations, endless prairie, and labyrinthine washes—the trailless expanse in the park's North Unit is the setting for this 3-day, 22-mile loop. 

From the backcountry trailhead at the Conata Picnic Area, 12 miles south of Wall, SD, meander southwest through knee-high grass, skirting the base of the Badlands formations and the occasional pronghorn boneyard (watch out for rattlers). After 2 miles, pass through a gated barbed-wire fence and veer northwest toward Deer Haven, a juniper-covered oasis perched in the rock spires ahead. Nearly a mile later, climb crumbly mounds that slope up to the lush confines of Deer Haven. At the oasis, find a flat spot to pitch your tent and spend the night in an amphitheater of towering pinnacles.

On day two, weave through juniper stands and ascend .3 mile to a narrow ridgetop—and the route's highpoint. Descend the backside of the ridge into a steep-banked wash pockmarked with mud puddles and pancake-shaped bison prints. Follow countless, snaking bends northwest to a T-junction at mile 4.1 and turn left. At mile 6, bear left where a dry creek bed enters on the right; leave the wash .6 mile later.

The next 3.5 miles traverses the Sage Creek Basin, a vast grassland veined with more high-walled washes; scan the periphery for buffalo before rolling in and out of the sandy gullies. Stop for lunch at a grassy-banked pond 8.2 miles into the loop (the route's only water source). Two miles later, leave Sage Creek Basin and hike west over mounded formations into Tyree Basin; spend your second night here.

On the last day, navigate south-southeast through a maze of washes en route to Sage Creek Pass, a large gap in the Badlands formations. At mile 15.5, angle east past a private ranch; trace the fenceline for a mile before ducking under a north-south running fence that blocks the route. Just past the fence, squeeze through a gap in the formations and descend to the Conata Basin for the 3-mile stretch back to the first gate. From here, retrace your steps to the Conata Picnic Area.

Caution: There is no potable water in the Badlands backcountry. Hikers must pack in all of their water. Carry at least a gallon per person per day. 


Permit:
 Badlands National Park has no formal backcountry permit or reservation system. Hikers are advised to visit the Ben Reifel Visitor Center for planning assistance, safety tips, directions, and regulations.

Gear up: Nearby roadside attraction Wall Drug also stocks a variety of last- minute supplies such as white gas, duct tape, sunscreen, and batteries. 510 Main St., Wall, SD; (605)[masked]; walldrug.com

Contact:
 Badlands National Park, (605)[masked]; nps.gov/badl/.

http://www.nps.gov/badl/index.htm

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~CAMPING ~~~~~~~BASE CAMP PART~~~~~~~~~~~~~Lila Ravve~~~~~~

There is tons to do and see, hiking, Lots of Wildlife, Crazy Horse, Mount Rushmore, Mammoth Dig site, Hot Springs, and more...(BAD LANDS will be planned for the same day as the backpackers leave for the over night- Expect a full day for this trip)



 

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  • Jeff D.

    May 25

  • Agaf D.

    Badlands and Black Hills were awesome, thanks for organizing so many different experiences!

    1 · May 21

  • Yuri

    Great times!

    1 · May 21

  • Jeff D.

    Hey --- I should have our video for the backpacking part done tonight as I was the only one taking pictures... if you have photos from the other part of the trip please share


    Stop... I am not dead yet!!!

    May 20

    • Lila

      Jeff, I have tried uploading photos a few times, but the meetup was not yet closed. I'll upload photos tomorrow.

      May 20

    • Lila

      We can help you with the second item....

      May 20

  • Cathy R.

    had a great time. thanks jeff!!

    May 20

  • Jeff D.

    I am going to Create a Second Photo Set - FOR BLACK HILLS - place your photos here or there

    May 20

  • Jeff D.

    no bears in the Black Hills , but that there are mountain lions. Apparently mountain lions are quite skittish around people and rarely approach them.

    May 10

  • Manijeh

    Hi all,
    I am in Fort Collins and have no car. Would anybody be able to pick me up? Of course I share the gas.
    Also I will rent a two person tent from our rec center in CSU (because that's what they have!) so was wondering if anyone is interested to share the tent and its weight!
    Thank you,
    Manijeh

    April 21

    • Agaf D.

      Is there any way you could get to E. Mulberry and I25? There's a McDonalds at the SE corner of the intersection. That would be ideal for picking you up. Barring that, let me know where you live offline ([masked]).

      1 · April 23

  • Jeff D.

    Not this trips is non-refundable!!!

    February 24

  • Jeff D.

    FYI - UPDATED NO DOGS ON THIS TRIP SORRY!

    February 19

  • Jeff D.

    Camping part we will have room for more but on the Backpacking part I will not be taking more than 12 -14 so after the backpacking part is filled we will Only take Camp (only) RSVP's sorry too many people with Bison - not wise (unless you wear horns)

    January 27

    • Jeff D.

      5 per site? then I will limit it now

      January 27

    • Lila

      I only have two sites. Would like to limit to 8 per site. Especially given the limit on cars per site.

      January 27

  • Jaye

    Prefer the backpack only version. Suggestions on how to pack and carry 3 gallons?

    January 11, 2014

    • Jeff D.

      2 gallons now (lol) yea... as we do an in and out we can make water drops... obviously more water will be used for the first day fro cooking and .... but we can leave extra water on the way in - to use on the way out - cutting weight as we travel further - with this method - I plan to actually take about 2.25 gallons but have about a gallon in my pack when I reach "wherever" we end up at...if planned right and we need emerg. water we would be a couple miles to get it not a days hike out to drink again!!!

      January 27

    • Jeff D.

      we can also talk about sharing gear as a team - a few larger first aid kits rather than each small ones, stoves fuel, meals, we can all talk about this later... :-)

      January 27

  • Jeff D.

    I AM SO SORRY FOR THOSE WHO DID THE FORM ALREADY... but as the dates and everything changed so much I had to change and add questions - PLEASE DON'T HATE ME BUT.. I NEED YOU TO FILL OUT THE FOR AGAIN!!! SORRY!!!!!!

    January 24, 2014

  • Jeff D.

    - RSVP's open on February 24, 2014 Monday 7:00pm

    January 1, 2014

  • Ricardo

    This would be a great trip for the PackMack™ esp. in that we have to haul our own water. I'm in if anybody wants to join me pulling one let me know!!! Peace...

    1 · November 14, 2013

  • Jeff D.

    plan for appox 3 gallons of water person to carry. If we do an in and out we can stash water on the way in for our exit - loop will require carrying 3 gallons.

    November 6, 2013

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