Vaughn, it would be interesting to know what has happened in your past to motivate you to do such research to lead you to believe the Nazis did not target Jews for extermination. I would be interested in meeting you privately in an attempt to understand. Lee, it would be great to have you present. Vaughn, to give you a public opportunity to deny the holocaust I will not do, but you do raise my curiosity thus the invitation is being made to a private discussion.
0 · November 12
So, what do I need to do to present a revisionist history of the Holocaust to people who have been relentlessly indoctrinated into believing the conventional account of the Holocaust is unimpeachable and that only an anti-Semite (I would call such-a-one a "Holocaust Truther") would dare question Jewish propaganda on the Holocaust? Lee Salisbury, let me know when I can present my views on this topic. Please note me back. Thx. V. Klingenberg
0 · November 17
Nice to meet you too, John et al ;-).
Lee said you would ask hard questions if I made provocative claims, but apparently the claim that spies killed John Kennedy was not controversial for you. No hard questions. But since you ask, I will write what I can in 1000 characters.
I read 17 books to reach my conclusions and talked to people closer to events. One of my sources was an Army Ranger assigned to CIA’s Miami Station 1962-63, Brad Ayers, a Stillwater grad with lots of inside information. Jim Marrs' “Crossfire” is excellent. For beginners FBI agent and New Orleans DA Jim Garrison's "On the Trail of the Assassins" is good. So, John, if you really want to dispute nuts and bolts of Kennedy’s murder, or 9/11, invite me back and we can focus on one. If we did 9/11, I would need ½ hour of video capability, and the Zapruder film is critical evidence on the JFK case. So video would be helpful in either case. But I’d expect harder questions.
St. Paul, USA
0 · November 13
Engaging presentation on the psychopathy of spies ... allegations of spy activities regarding JFK assassination and 9/11 not supported by any evidence and should have been challenged ...aspiring critical thinkers were too easy on the speaker ... nevertheless we acquired much to contemplate as to need for oversight of CIA and NSA ... our democracy is in jeopardy
0 · November 12
[Beginning of Part 2] We owe it to everyone involved in the Holocaust--Jew and Gentile alike--to come to an honest assessment of it and not simply repeat unvetted platitudes and cartoonish caricatures of who was involved and what supposedly happened. I encourage you to invite all your Jewish friends to attend (as I will be doing as well) so we can have an open, frank, and honest debate. Thank you for this opportunity!!! -- Vaughn Klingenberg (I await your timely reply, and thank you again.)
0 · November 11
Hi Lee Salisbury!! John Paquette suggested I contact you to set up a time to present a critical assessment of the conventional account of the Holocaust. I am free on Mondays, so if you could set aside a date for me to do a presentation as soon as possible--that would be great!!! So much has followed in the wake of the Holocaust--the justification for the founding of the [racist, apartheid] Jewish state of Israel, the employment of the Holocaust as a means by which some slanderous Jewish leaders (the Anti-Defamation League's Abe Foxman comes to mind) to label and dismiss critics of Israel or Zionism as closet Nazis or anti-Semites, and the general strategy of guilting the Gentile population for not being more supportive of the Jewish community--that a critical and honest assessment is sorely needed, especially today! [End of Part 1]
0 · November 11
I am looking forward to tonight's presentation. It appears that Dr. Andregg will be discussing various aspects of intelligence gathering, or spying, and our slide towards the “end justifies the means" position. Do we need spys? Is there such a thing as ethical spying? Can effective policies with regard to oversight and accountability be achieved?
Having had my say, I would suggest with respect that we hear the speaker out and not have the replay of the circus that we had at our last session. If you want to air your pet theories, save them until the end of the presentation. I, and I think most of the others attendees, are coming to hear our scheduled presenter and not you. If you have that much to say, and it's that important to you, sign up for a time slot to make your positions known.
0 · November 11
The motto of Israel's infamous Massad is: "By deception, wage war." Deceit is enshrined and unabashedly trumpeted by Israel's premier spy organization as their modus operandi. This should tell us something, esp with respect to False Flag operations such as the Lavon Affair, the Oklahoma City bombing, and 9/11. My own view is that all spy organizations should be disbanded. They have been responsible for overthrowing more democratically elected governments as well as being responsible for more state sponsored terrorism than the folks they are supposedly protecting us against. Al Quida--if it even exists or is merely a boogy-man created by "our" so-called "intelligence" services to keep the public in a constant state of fear so we can be cowed and ruled more effectively--gives me FAR less fear that our own over-reaching and intimidating survailence organizations. vk
0 · November 6