Seventh Meeting of Cthulhu Rising at Wai Wai on Lemmon Ave

[masked] - Change in Venue: Everyone, I am changing this meeting to Wai Wai on Lemmon Ave instead of Cafe Express. I think you will find it a much quieter and less frigid meeting environment. (Cafe Express is too noisy for me with my hearing loss.)

IMPORTANT NOTE: For the eighth meeting, I will be providing copies from a book for us to read. It is too long for me to scan and post as a PDF, so I will provide copies for those who are willing to pay the $5 copy fee. I will be bringing the copies to this meeting--the seventh--so that everyone will have a month to read it. 

If you want a copy, please say so in the comments below and I will make the requested number of copies. Please bring your $5 to this meeting.

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Welcome to the seventh meeting of Cthulhu Rising: The HP Lovecraft Society of Dallas. Please remember to take notes for discussion. I look forward to seeing you all on the 31st. 

Cthulhu fhtagn!

READING LIST FOR DISCUSSION 

• 1918: The Green Meadow

• 1919: Beyond the Wall of Sleep

• 1919: Memory

• A section on HPL from the book The Conspiracy Against the Human Race, by Thomas Ligotti.

• "H.P. Lovecraft: Myth-Maker," by Dirk W. Mosig

• "Character Gullibility in Weird Fiction," by Darrell Schweitzer


A Weird Tales illustration for "Beyond the Wall of Sleep."


SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION

The "Beyond the Wall of Sleep," page on H.P. Lovecraft Wiki.

"Beyond the Wall of Sleep," by Gonzo Entertainment:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMSX08194Tw


A reading of "Beyond the Wall of Sleep." (narrator/producer unknown):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO_t0tL7mmo

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  • Cary

    June 22

  • Melissa S.

    Continuation of last comment "Many fascinating supplements/tidbits re "Beyond the Wall of Sleep":

    "Anderson’s Star”
    http://chrisperridas.blogspot.com/2011/03/beyond-wall-of-sleep-andersons-star.html

    “Lovecraftiana: G P Serviss & Nova Persei”
    http://chrisperridas.blogspot.com/search?q=lovecraftiana.+gp+serviss

    “See the Winking ‘Demon Star’ in Night Sky This Week”
    http://www.space.com/17502-night-sky-demon-star-observing.html

    “Ancient Egyptian Calendar Reveals Earliest Record of “Demon Star’”
    http://www.livescience.com/20575-ancient-egyptian-calendar-demon-star.html

    “The history of the star: Algol”
    http://www.constellationsofwords.com/stars/Algol.html

    “Ghoul”
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghoul
    The star Algol takes its name from the Arabic Rās al-ghūl, or The Demon’s Head. Melissa

    1 · June 9

    • Cary

      Melissa, thanks for posting all these links. I haven't had time to read them yet, but I am going to try.

      June 16

    • Melissa S.

      Cary, don't hurry--just go through them when you can or look at what interests you. I found an excellent article on "The Transition of Juan Romero"--just haven't had time to get up the link; also, need to post some info about original footnotes to story that Lovecraft included which are not included in the edition that was posted for us to read. Melissa

      June 16

  • Melissa S.

    Also see illustrations related to our readings/discussion of 7th meeting under "Photos." Melissa

    June 9

  • Melissa S.

    Many fascinating supplements/tidbits re “Beyond the Wall of Sleep":
    Highly recommended! “Monstrous and Haunted Media: H. P. Lovecraft and Early Twentieth-Century Communications Technology”
    http://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/404550/1/404550.pdf

    Newspaper article which inspired/influenced “Beyond the Wall of Sleep”
    F.F. Van de Water, “How Our State Police Have Spurred Their Way to Fame,” New York Tribune, April 27, 1919, sec. VIII, pp. 2-3
    http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1919-04-27/ed-1/seq-59.pdf

    Worth reading to get a sense of the bias/prejudice that was predominant in Lovecraft's time/culture. For information re Algol and Nova Persei, see next comment. Melissa

    1 · June 9

  • Melissa S.

    Really interesting supplemental material regarding “The Green Meadow”:

    “Lovecraft’s ‘Green Meadow’ Meteor"
    Identifies “at least one and perhaps two" newspaper articles regarding the faux 1913 Tiverton meteor.
    http://miskatonicbooks.wordpress.com/2014/01/15/lovecrafts-green-meadow-meteor/

    On blog, Lovecraft and His Legacy, see “Winifred Virginia Jackson” and “Lovecraftiana: Winifred V Jackson V”—discusses Lovecraft’s possible romantic attraction to Winifred and some interesting details of Winifred’s life.
    http://chrisperridas.blogspot.com/search?q=winifred+virginia+jackson

    Also mentions book entitled “Winifred Virginia Jackson-Lovecraft’s Lost Romance” which reprints Lovecraft’s article, “Winifred Virginia Jackson: A ‘different’ poetess" originally published in The United Amateur, March 1921. If you would like to read the text, you can find it at
    http://www.booksshouldbefree.com/download/text/Writings-in-the-United-Amateur-1915-1922.txt

    Melissa

    1 · June 9

  • Melissa S.

    Just a follow-up to my mention in my previous comment that I would post some articles/websites with links, all relevant to our Lovecraft stories of the 7th Meeting. Sorry, this is taking longer than I thought. However, I will try to finish my list tomorrow if possible. In the meantime, I will post a real gem that I found: see photos for this meeting.

    1 · June 7

  • Melissa S.

    I'm just listing some articles I came across that members may like to read to gain more insight on the last few stories. "The Green Meadow" and "The Willows": Lovecraft, Blackwood, and a Peculiar Coincidence" by Stefan Dziemainowicz, Lovecraft Studies, 19/20, Fall 1989 (discusses similarities between "The Green Meadow" and "The Willows" although all known documentation indicates that Lovecraft wrote "The Green Meadow" before reading "The Willows'). "'Reality' and Knowledge" by S.T. Joshi, Primal Sources, 2003 (gives insight into how Lovecraft viewed dreams as a way to give "the illusion of some strange suspension or violation of the galling limitations of time , space, and natural law . . . ."). Unfortunately, I haven't come across web versions of these articles and I don't know how to scan them in, but I'd be glad to mail a copy to anyone who is interested. I'll post some articles/websites with links that you can access on the internet.

    1 · June 2

    • Cary

      If you want to provide a copy, I can scan them in, or make copies for the group.

      June 3

    • Melissa S.

      Cary, I appreciate your offer, but I hate to impose an additional task on you. Maybe we should run this by the group next meeting. I really don't know how many people have the time to read additional material, so I don't know whether it's worth your effort to make copies, scan material in, etc. It might just be easier for individuals who are interested in the additional material to contact me; it would certainly be no trouble for me to make one or two copies and mail them to anyone who is really interested in any of the reading material that I mention (specifically, material that is not accessible through the internet). Melissa

      June 7

  • Melissa S.

    Fantastic! I always love how Cary includes certain readings together. I was particularly impressed with the selection from The Consiparcy Against the Human Race: it contained what was to me an absolute essential key to explaining Lovecraft's personality and the way that it is reflected in his fiction: "But relatively dissociated from Lovecraft the cosmic disillusionist was another Lovecraft, one who releveled in protectionist illusions that could not be more alien to the propensities of his alter ego." In developing my own thesis about Lovecraft's fiction, my mind had been running on these lines, but I hadn't really articulated this observation in concrete terms. I particularly benefited from reading "The Green Meadow" and "Beyond the Wall of Sleep" after reading "Polaris"; these stories helped helped me identify a conceptual trend in Lovecraft's earlier tales, and, along with my own research, helped me identify the various components of this trend.

    1 · June 2

  • Melissa S.

    Hi, everyone, especially John P. (I sent you an email)--found an extremely good article entitled "Monstrous and Haunted Media: H.P. Lovecraft and Early Twentieth-Century Communications Technology"--it's relevant not only to "Beyond the Wall of Sleep" but many other upcoming Lovecraft stories. Explores how Lovecraft uses various technology to "witness," experience, contact, portray, limit the shock of contacting/experieincing horrors and monstrosities. May have to read the first 4 pages a litte slowly or read twice but well worth it to catch on to what the various ideas and points this critic makes. See link
    http://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/404550/1/404550.pdf.

    1 · May 26

    • Cary

      I'm going to add this link to a future meeting. Not the 8th, but perhaps one after that.

      May 31

  • Cary

    Gah! My brain hurts from too much information. Lol! : )

    May 31

  • Melissa S.

    A little chronology which I thought would be helpful, as I am trying to get all of this organized in my head also: after writing "Dagon" (1917, began in August, still working on in September), Lovecraft "at once began work on "Psychopompos"--abandoned midway, not resumed until summer of 1918. Lovecraft seems to have begun "Polaris" very close to summer of 1918 (although had the dream on which story based in May 1918). Then had a dream which led him to start the beginning of "The Green Meadow." However, Lovecraft was too upset to continue "The Green Meadow" as his mother "broke down"--this may have been her nervous breakdown in "the winter of[masked]"--and for two months Lovecraft did very little. After two months, he did finish "The Green Valley" perhaps late 1918 or early 1919. A clue indicates that his next story, "Beyond the Wall of Sleep" was not begun until after April 27, 1919. Most info comes from Lovecraft's letters. I will revise if necessary. Melissa

    1 · May 26

  • Melissa S.

    Hey, everyone. Found a very cool article regarding "The Green Meadow"--explains how Lovecraft worked into his story newspaper reports of a fraud meteor crash. See http://miskatonicbooks.wordpress.com/2014/01/15/lovecrafts-green-meadow-meteor/
    Title: "Lovecraft's 'Green Meadow' Meteror'

    May 26

  • Margaret

    I wish I could come, Cary. May 31st is Veggie Garden's last day in operation, and it has been such a significant contributor to the compassionate community (since 1995), I am helping them (in a small way) and want to be there to show my support. Next time, please. Thank you.

    May 25

    • Cary

      We'll miss you. Hope all is well.

      May 25

  • Melissa S.

    Cary, can you tell me where you found the Weird Tales illustration for "Beyond the Wall of Sleep"? This image is really grainy; I'd like to find the image with a better resolution to see the details. Melissa

    May 16

    • Cary

      May 16

    • Cary

      I sourced it from Wikipedia. The caption under the photo only reads: Main illustration for the story "Beyond the Wall of Sleep". Internal illustration from the pulp magazine Weird Tales (March 1938, vol. 31, no. 3, page 331).

      May 16

  • Melissa S.

    Cary, I've read that book! (or at least most of it). Can you tell me what pages we'll be reading? I may already have a copy of those pages. However, I still want to reimburse you for all the effort to make the copies. Melissa

    April 12, 2014

    • Cary

      The first chapter on Lovecraft. No need to pay for anything unless you want the additional copies.

      April 21, 2014

  • Cary

    By the way, the copies you'll be purchasing for the 8th meeting are the from the book "Science and Destabilization in the Modern American Gothic: Lovecraft, Matheson, and King," by David A. Oakes.

    April 10, 2014

  • Melissa S.

    Yes, Cary, definitely want the copies, so will bring $5. Melissa

    April 7, 2014

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