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Rockville Maryland Discussion Group

  • Oct 19, 2012 · 8:00 PM
  • Robert Ahrens' home

We had 13 people for our September meeting. It was a wide ranging meeting exploring numerous topics extending well outside the nominal starting topic for the group. Let's stay with that direction and declare our October discussion to be totally general covering whatever topics are of interest.

Instead of meeting in Rockville in November I am planning a meeting on November 17 at the Cleveland Park Library in DC. It is a block south of a Metro and will be a great opportunity for our DC members to meet other wonderful regional atheists.

We will have a Solstice party in Rockville in December.

Robert Ahrens as usual will be hosting this third Friday of the month meeting. The meeting will start at 8 pm. People may arrive as early as 7:30 so that we can actually start at 8 pm. Please bring a small contribution of food and/or drink to be shared with the group. The home is in Rockville near Viers Mill and Aspen Hill Road. Transport to and from the Twinbrook Metro stop can be arranged if needed.

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  • A former member
    A former member

    Delightful

    October 20, 2012

  • Craig Y.

    Religion observes the data from the society and makes sense of it. In fact it is ancient social science if you distill the knowledge. You are against the dogma on the supernatural aspects. But it does not have to be that way.

    October 19, 2012

  • Craig Y.

    Chad:I think we are define things differently and became oueselves dogmatic. Spirit has a lot to do with our experiences, especially if you are an athiest. I think you are reacting to the Western Greco-Roman tradition of being doctrinare. Remove dogmatism and looking at the content religion and science are much closer. Otherwise we are using one doctrine to fight another doctrine.

    October 19, 2012

  • Craig Y.

    Chad:I think we are define things differently and became oueselves dogmatic. Spirit has a lot to do with our experiences, especially if you are an athiest. I think you are reacting to the Western Greco-Roman tradition of being doctrinare. Remove dogmatism and looking at the content religion and science are much closer. Otherwise we are using one doctrine to fight another doctrine.

    October 19, 2012

    • A former member
      A former member

      I agree that both science and religion seek to answer difficult questions. I suppose that is what you get with dogma removed from religion. However, science uses observation and experimentation to describe and explain natural phenomena. Whereas, religion uses faith and fear to qualify it's dogma and keep it's followers in line. In the end, between science and religion, there is no real similarity only stark contrast.

      October 19, 2012

  • Craig Y.

    Wel,l if you define that your inspirations coming from the wider cosmos as immaterial spirit (not ghosts)that can render you energy that you don't have, then religious and athiest are coming closer.

    October 17, 2012

    • Craig Y.

      The existing physical laws are from our understanding of the basics that we see with constants to fudge it. In term of human endeavor, there is a certain spiritual force in human beings that gives us more strength and insight than without it, it is often moralistic. This I think is very close to the religous feeling or religions. In science, the inspirations almost never arrived from formulas, which may eventually come down to it, but arrive from our subconscience playing with those pictures we got familiar. So both science and religions are very personal to the humans.

      October 19, 2012

    • A former member
      A former member

      "Spiritual force" is an assertion of faith and has nothing to do with what is known. By and large the religious believe what they are told to believe. Critical thought does not lend to the continuation of their dogma. Atheists tend to be skeptical seeking the determination of evidence. Believers (with their missionary impulses) ensnare the young and weak but fall short with any reasonable argument.

      October 19, 2012

  • Craig Y.

    Can the athiest feel the spirit, which can help him?

    October 16, 2012

    • Don W.

      Immaterial ghosts of any sort cannot help anyone. However, atheists can have any feeeling that others have including love, delight, inspiration and even a sense of deep connection with the wider cosmos.

      October 17, 2012

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