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Re: [atheists-27] Liberal and Conservative?

From: bruce
Sent on: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 5:25 PM
Ah the oldest and hoariest fascist mythology.  The government owns the land, the country and your body.

The government is a predatory ruling class.  It and its defenders deserve exile, imprisonment or execution.

On Tuesday, March 12, 2013, Duff Means wrote:
You didn't... but you agreed to it when you didn't move out of the country when you became a legal adult.


On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Zach Moore <[address removed]> wrote:
Social Contract. Where is this social contract. I don't remember signing it. 


On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Duff Means <[address removed]> wrote:
No, I am arguing in favor of the social contract that you fail to acknowledge. You didn't get to where you are on your own, and your descendants will not achieve even half of your success without the support of civilization around them.

The current government is wrong, this I agree. The influence of corporate money over political decisions and spending is promoting individual greed over the common interest and common good, and this must be corrected - but your solution is anything but a solution, and simply makes the problem even worse.


On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Zach Moore <[address removed]> wrote:

Hence you are initiating force.

On Mar 12,[masked]:50 PM, "Duff Means" <[address removed]> wrote:
"No duff you have already been using force.  You are already supporting a state that forces Zach to work half his life as a slave to pay its demands, and regulates the other half of his life"

I don't support the current state. I just don't support the lack of state that you are arguing for.


On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:49 PM, bruce <[address removed]> wrote:
No duff you have already been using force.  You are already supporting a state that forces Zach to work half his life as a slave to pay its demands, and regulates the other half of his life

On Tuesday, March 12, 2013, Duff Means wrote:
Yet again, you're turning to force first.


On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Zach Moore <[address removed]> wrote:

Guess we're just going to have to.fight it out. Gear up

On Mar 12,[masked]:43 PM, "Duff Means" <[address removed]> wrote:
Your ownership of any property that interferes with my access to food, water, medical care, or any other need constitutes a coercive force,

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