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Re: [atheists-27] Ideology and Atheism

From: Woody L.
Sent on: Sunday, March 24, 2013 4:40 PM
"especially those on the right" or to the far left that were/are eager to  use "atheism" as extra tool for oppressing people, using "inquisition" methods

On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Chad <[address removed]> wrote:
I agree with you that people can be very tribal within a group. Maintaining a truly clear and atheistic approach to living one's, I believe, requires avoiding tribalism as much as possible. Weirdly, many atheists belong to and encourage others the attend the Untitarian Universalist Church. To me, it is creepy when an atheist does anything "churchy" or worse yet, feels a missionary impulse to indoctrinate. People also have religious and/or tribal tendencies when it comes to politics, nationalism (patriotism), sports, place of birth, where they went to school, etc.. Tribalism/religion in all its forms is a bore to me. Moreover, it is decidedly not indicative of one who thinks freely (as should be the case with any self respecting atheist). However, I strongly disagree with your assertion that we in this group have unfairly slammed right wing ideology. As far i can tell, i have witnessed no cult-like or unfair treatment of anyone, righty or lefty. Anybody espousing blind faith in anything on this mailing list should beware of Don, Joseph, Matthew, Carl, Woody, and others. Here evidence is required in support of one's beliefs and convictions. Sadly, ideologues (especially those on the right) tend to reach critical mass when called out by this group of bright aforementioned atheists.

Don and Mathew,
I am going to do a bit of studying then wade into the solar energy topic mentioned previously. Great stuff.

Chad Albus

Kurt <[address removed]> wrote:

I would just like to remind everyone that to be an atheist only denotes a disbelief in a supernatural god, and and that is it. The term "atheist" does not denote any other common characteristic, and it is in error to assume it does (or even worse, insist that it does or that is must, as seems to be the case here). 

I am very troubled by the slamming of "right wing ideology".

"Just because a given ideology is not reported to be a revelation from God does not mean that it does not have all the properties of a religion" - Well, with respect  yes, it does in fact lack the most critical element of religion - a belief in a God. If belief in a God is no longer an essential element of a religion, then atheism, or at least some manifestations of it, could be considered a religion as well. 

I have left wing beliefs, right wing beliefs, and some libertarian beliefs too. I very frequently, but not always, vote republican. If I am no longer welcome in this group because of that, then so be it .

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