Racist or not, Trump is a dangerous man. Neither liberal, conservative, Republican, or Democrat, he is in a league of his own. And his authoritarian streak lends itself to "dog whistle" racism. 

Tom 

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From: "Jared Reeves" <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Friday, March 4,[masked]:14:31 AM

Subject: Re: [atheists-27] Racism on Thom Hartmann

Donald Trump is a complete wacko.  But I am not sure what is more crazy--the crazy rhetoric he spouts, or the conspiracy theories of this group.  This group sees coded messages everywhere, and no matter the evidence, it confirms your confirmation biases.  

You can disagree with a person or group and not assume they have evil intentions.

- Jared

On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 2:17 AM, Siggy <[address removed]> wrote:

- From the comment section of the Washington Post in an article about Paul Ryan, Trump, and the Republican nomination

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/03/01/paul-ryan-fires-a-warning-shot-at-trump-and-at-his-own-party/?tid=hybrid_collaborative_1_na

nan1987
3/3/2016 3:18 PM EST
["This party does not prey on people’s prejudices." (- says Paul Ryan)
Well then, that is news to the rest of the GOP.  Preying on prejudices has been the GOP's modus operandi for 35+ years now, since Lee Atwater - by his own admission - first urged Ronald Reagan to use 'code language' to appeal to racists during his 1980 campaign. The GOP has been on a
mission to use racism and stoke fear for all these decades, happily abetted by Roger Ailes and his henchmen. And over all that time, we could have been moving forward, together.  One of the biggest crimes of the last 7+ years has been the obstruction of President Obama, who was firmly committed to being a president of "all the people".  This President could have delivered great things for the country, and the world. But the GOP, in their infinite insanity and self-absorption, decided, on Day One of this presidency, that they would put everything they had into denying the nation that opportunity.  It hasn't been since Lincoln that the GOP was ever "Country First". A pox on the GOP.]

Don't know who nan1987 is but I agree with her.

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On Fri, 3/4/16, Mathew Goldstein <[address removed]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [atheists-27] Racism on Thom Hartmann
 To: [address removed]
 Date: Friday, March 4, 2016, 12:27 AM

 And
 the Republican Party context that Trump is operating in is
 highly ideological. Republicans seem to think that
 Republican Party rule is essential and Democratic Party rule
 is unacceptable and therefore compromise is unacceptable.
  And this goes together with advocating for a radical
 policy agenda that calls for big changes in spending,
 taxation, and social policies.  The historical record fails
 to support their uncompromising rhetoric.  For example,
 Governor Brownback has not transformed the economy of Kansas
 for the better with deep tax cuts for the affluent and
 spending cuts for the impoverished, economic austerity by
 the EU did not have a better result than stimulus in the
 U.S., less religious and socially more liberal states and
 countries do better than more religious states and countries
 on most measures of well-being, etc.  Yet none of that
 matters at all, any relevant information that is
 inconvenient to their policy agenda is ignored or denied.
  Climate warming inconvenient to small government so they
 deny.  Macro evolution inconvenient to government
 establishments of religion so they deny.  More gun
 ownership correlates to more violent crime then they pass
 laws forbidding funding such studies and deny. There is a
 big gap between their overconfidence in their agenda for
 radical changes and the evidence which, together with their
 intolerance of compromise, and intolerance for gathering or
 following evidence that goes against their policy agenda, is
 a symptom of ideology.   It is about stoking partisanship
 for the purpose of winning.
 On Mar 3,
 2016, at 11:04 PM, Don Wharton <[address removed]>
 wrote:



 Tom,

 To be clear, I am not saying Trump is a racist
 by any rigorous definition.  The fact is that dog whistle
 politics is quite effective in avoiding that designation. 
 That is the point.

 What is
 being communicated here is that those who hear these racist
 dog whistles are reporting hearing them and responding
 enormously.  I have found over a dozen articles giving hard
 data that Trump supporters are more authoritarian and
 intolerant:

 http://www.vox.com/2016/2/23/11099644/trump-support-authoritarianism
 Graph of support for Trump based on range of
 authoritarianism indicated that over 60% of maximally
 authoritarians would support Trump and less than 10% of
 minimally authoritarian (in a South Carolina sample).
 ----
 In South Carolina, 57
 percent of Trump voters made up their mind to
 support him more than a month before the primary. More than
 half of
 these voters scored at least .75 on the authoritarian scale.
 And they
 never wavered. By comparison, only 20 percent of Rubio and
 35 percent of
  Cruz supporters decided that far out. This is Trump’s
 support base, and
  it is rock solid.

 http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/25/upshot/measuring-donald-trumps-supporters-for-intolerance.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1
 Data from Public Policy Polling show that a
 third of Mr. Trump’s backers
  in South Carolina support barring gays and lesbians from
 entering the
 country. This is nearly twice the support for this idea (17
 percent)
 among Ted Cruz’s and Marco Rubio’s voters and nearly
 five times the
 support of John Kasich’s and Ben Carson’s supporters (7
 percent).

 Don

 From:
 [address removed]
 To: [address removed]
 Subject: Re: [atheists-27] Racism on Thom
 Hartmann
 Date: Thu, 3 Mar[masked]:45:06
 -0500

 Racism
 has become more subtle and indirect, less in-yo-face.  But
 don't expect to win an argument by simply accusing your
 opponent of racism.  You still have to show how something
 (whatever your opponent wants to do) disproportionately
 hurts ethnic minorities. Otherwise, calling someone a racist
 is just name-calling.
 Tom
 From:
 "Joe" <[address removed]>
 To: [address removed]
 Sent: Thursday, March 3,[masked]:30:06
 PM
 Subject: Re: [atheists-27] Racism
 on Thom Hartmann

 For those who dont
 knowIan Haney LópezDog
 Whistle Politics: How Coded Racial Appeals Have Reinvented
 Racism and Wrecked the Middle ClassOn Mar 3,[masked]:35 PM,

 "Don Wharton" <[address removed]>
 wrote:
 I was listening to Thom
 Hartmann's radio broadcast this afternoon. A self
 described racist called in. He firmly felt that whites were
 racially superior to blacks. He felt that the Civil War was
 not justified. He felt that plantation mentality had a
 virtue in that whites had a better vision about how to run
 things.
 He noted the
 “dog whistle” aspects of Donald Trump. He explicitly
 used the term dog whistle. He obviously understood that
 these were coded messaged to racists that would not be
 understood by the wider public. He highly valued these
 particular messages from Trump. It allowed him to understand
 what Trump was thinking. He was therefor a passionate
 supporter of Trump and he asserted that all of his racist
 friends also supported Trump.
 My Comments:I was astonished and disgusted
 that anyone could call in to a progressive program with this
 attitude. Apparently he exists in a social matrix where
 explicit racism remains very visible and celebrated. I had
 already had the possible fascism of Trump as a topic of our
 discussion group tomorrow. This extremely ugly racism is
 clearly an element of major concern for us all.
 Don



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