Mailing List Archive

Subject Sender Date
Supreme Court Today - It was worthwhile for us to go down to the Supreme Court to get our message out. Don Wharton Mar 26, 2014 12:12 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Who should make birth-control decisions? - Preview not available Joyce Patterson Mar 24, 2014 11:22 AM
Re: [atheists-27] I Hate Politics - My recollection is that the question was specifically about medical insurance provided by the Don Wharton Mar 22, 2014 11:35 PM
Re: [atheists-27] I Hate Politics - Don, The statistics on child homelessness in the US, w Martin Mar 22, 2014 7:24 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Fw: Who should make birth-control decisions? - I 'll be there with Planned Parenthood if the weather isn't too bad. I'll be wearing pink....about time I get in touch with my feminine side.(grin) Norm Norm Mar 22, 2014 3:32 PM
Re: [atheists-27] I Hate Politics - Thank you for the additional data Martin. I think Lee's assessment was based largely on Don Wharton Mar 22, 2014 2:07 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Fw: Who should make birth-control decisions? - friend of Smokey, Thank you for the link to The Guardian article on atheism being taught to Irish schoolchildren. I sent it to some of my family members. Steven Jones Mar 22, 2014 2:03 PM
Re: [atheists-27] I Hate Politics - Don, I am surprised at your and your partner's observa Martin Mar 22, 2014 1:00 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Fw: Who should make birth-control decisions? - i'll be there friend of Smokey the Bear Mar 22, 2014 8:56 AM
Fw: Who should make birth-control decisions? - Hi Everyone, Don Wharton Mar 21, 2014 4:29 PM
Re: [atheists-27] I Hate Politics - Words are used to communicate information. This is only successful if we both agree on the meaning of th Woody Lipinski Mar 21, 2014 2:45 PM
Re: [atheists-27] I Hate Politics - Woody, Words are used to communicate information. This is only successful if we both agree on the meaning of these words.& Karl Henderson Mar 21, 2014 6:01 AM
Re: [atheists-27] I Hate Politics - Tom and karl, Woody Lipinski Mar 21, 2014 1:12 AM
Re: [atheists-27] I Hate Politics - To all, Somalia is an example of a failed state--one that has almost c Tom Fields Mar 20, 2014 7:48 PM
Re: [atheists-27] I Hate Politics - Karl, I think you have it exactly right. As it stands the only real solutio Don Wharton Mar 20, 2014 3:32 PM
Re: [atheists-27] I Hate Politics - Hi Woody, I'm not sure if I'm just not communicating clearly or you're simply not getting what I'm saying - maybe a bit of both. As stated in my previous e-mail, current functionin Karl Henderson Mar 20, 2014 2:56 PM
Re: [atheists-27] I Hate Politics - Karl, In other words if real democracy no real socialism and vice versa. In academic theory or philosophy is possible your vision and composition of democracy and socialism but in practice it is impossib Woody Lipinski Mar 20, 2014 1:16 PM
Re: [atheists-27] I Hate Politics - Woody, When you speak about educating myself, you seem to be confusing a political system with an economic system as evidenced by your comment " Karl Henderson Mar 20, 2014 12:59 PM
Re: [atheists-27] I Hate Politics - Karl, if you think that in Sweden is a real socialism and is the same as in other countries where socialism failed you do not know what socialism means. For you education please visit incognito for one mon Woody Lipinski Mar 20, 2014 11:49 AM
Re: [atheists-27] I Hate Politics - That has more to do with military meddling than anything else. As economic ideologies both Marxism and Free Market Capitalism are horrifically flawed. But you have to keep in mind that the entire post war period is a non st Steve Mar 20, 2014 10:47 AM
Re: [atheists-27] I Hate Politics - Tom and Woody, a poor implementation of an ideology doesn’t mean the ideology itself is poor. Look at most of the examples in the world where we've tried to implement some f Karl Henderson Mar 20, 2014 9:09 AM
Re: [atheists-27] I Hate Politics - Don, you are a believer that "I think Karl Marx was a bit brighter than the collection of idiots that call themselves Marxists". Marx as a philosopher, I have no prob Woody Lipinski Mar 20, 2014 12:45 AM
Re: [atheists-27] I Hate Politics - I think Karl Marx was a bit brighter than the collection of idiots that call themselves Marxi Don Wharton Mar 19, 2014 10:16 PM
Re: [atheists-27] I Hate Politics - If Marxism was so correct, why has it failed all over the world? The only true Marxist dictatorships left are Cuba and North Korea. His predictions have been completely wron Tom Fields Mar 19, 2014 8:12 PM
I Hate Politics - I just read this review of Don Wharton Mar 19, 2014 1:38 PM
Critical Thinking - I haven't been posting much since Lee, my significant other, is running for political of Don Wharton Mar 8, 2014 3:33 AM
Re: [atheists-27] The God Who Wasn't There - p { margin: 0; } I have this movie. It's very interesting. Check it out. Tom Fr Tom Fields Mar 7, 2014 9:08 PM
The God Who Wasn't There - The God Who Wasn't There is on Don Wharton Mar 7, 2014 3:47 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Origins of Religions and their Evolution - I think we are trolled by a Bot     E K Mar 4, 2014 2:53 AM
Re: [atheists-27] The Marionette’s Lament - This article is quite true. It is rather pathetic that this source thinks th Don Wharton Mar 4, 2014 12:58 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Origins of Religions and their Evolution - show the herpetologist this 38 second video... friend of Smokey the Bear Mar 4, 2014 12:07 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Origins of Religions and their Evolution - I'm just waiting for a herpetologist to storm in , eyes filled with rage, ears fuming... I can wait...     E K Mar 3, 2014 8:02 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Origins of Religions and their Evolution - Steve, Firstly as you see from Forlong's c Martin Mar 2, 2014 9:31 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Origins of Religions and their Evolution - unrelated to this thread, but perhaps of sufficient interest anyway:   friend of Smokey the Bear Mar 2, 2014 7:15 PM
(no subject) - Just notifying everyone, there indeed seems to be a systemic problem behind Meetup's delays: This is the mail system at host mail.meetup.com. ###################### E K Mar 2, 2014 6:20 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Origins of Religions and their Evolution - Yeah, Too freudian for me...     E K Mar 2, 2014 7:04 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Origins of Religions and their Evolution - I found the following to be funny. from the wikipedia link that you provided, under Some Themes: Steven Jones Mar 1, 2014 1:43 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Origins of Religions and their Evolution - Edward, This seems to me to be a possible minor factor.  However, I do not think that the Milky Way exerted any selective pressure to speak of on humans or other primates, whereas reproduction and snake/primate co-evoluti Steven Jones Mar 1, 2014 1:39 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Origins of Religions and their Evolution - Martin, Yes, I agree snakes and serpents are the same thing in this context. Sorry for any confusion in my wording. Forlong seems to be saying that snakes are phallic symbols, presuma Steven Jones Mar 1, 2014 1:31 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Origins of Religions and their Evolution -   Could the "Serpent" (especially the feathered, sky-god variety) be the Milky Way ?   E K Feb 28, 2014 9:35 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Origins of Religions and their Evolution - Steve, I don't understand. Snakes and serp Martin Feb 28, 2014 6:58 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Origins of Religions and their Evolution - I attended the lecture  "Snakes and primates, an 80 million year-long dialog ...".   Steven Jones Feb 27, 2014 2:27 AM
Computer Gibberish Published as Science - Don Wharton Feb 26, 2014 9:15 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Origins of Religions and their Evolution - I liek pitchrz     E K Feb 26, 2014 8:42 PM
Origins of Religions and their Evolution - I think the origins and history of religions are quite fascinating topics, and I also hap Martin Feb 26, 2014 6:55 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Community Service - Just including everyone. For some reason, there is too much delay in this email system. And people don't get to see things someone wrote just mi E K Feb 25, 2014 6:01 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Community Service - General speaking we need more educated people such as scientists and technology smart people, good educators and philosophers than assistants of basic needs that should done by all levers government's agencies no churches or humanists. Woody Lipinski Feb 25, 2014 5:23 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Community Service - @Steve -- I disagree. Ever seen 5000 coal miners in their black work attire marching down the street and demanding their backpay ? I have E K Feb 25, 2014 5:16 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Community Service - At the moment I think that all people need rights and some people also need more immediate help.  They are not mutually exclusive. On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 3:31 PM, E K Mary Bellamy Feb 25, 2014 4:10 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Community Service - The labor movement and the left swore off violence so they can't actually make any demands of anybody.  I'm former military and a member of the VFW so I know what enforcing mineral and resource rights actually requires.  Steve Feb 25, 2014 3:57 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Community Service - Rights (on yer water) you can keep only with a gun, Steve. Aint no1 gonna redestribute n guarantee u nuthin if ya aint out there demandin it. Unions are the Only way, whe E K Feb 25, 2014 3:30 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Community Service - That won't matter.  AI, robots, 3d printing are going to kill off most jobs and manual labor.  Point blank we are going to need manual labor, secretaries, surgeons, or most jobs soon.  Teaching people to organize for jobs that are Steve Feb 25, 2014 2:46 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Survey of Philosophers - Because you use the word philosophers I am enclosing information about my visIt DC and groups related to the word. I did not see you at two interesting events in DC on Sunday Feb 23, 2014. The same place Woody Lipinski Feb 24, 2014 10:33 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Community Service - Here's an idea for community service: Hold a seminar for low income people in DC and teach them how to organize labor unions. That way they'll know how to fight for E K Feb 24, 2014 2:37 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Survey of Philosophers - NSA intervention? :-) Sent from my iPhone On Feb 22, 2014, at 5:33 PM, Don Wharton < d Joyce Patterson Feb 24, 2014 1:44 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Community Service - Sounds great. You might tell him about the Capital Area Food Bank where we had an event a few years ago. On Monday, February 24, 2014, Don Wharton < [address removed] > wrote: > Ben Cook is w Mary Bellamy Feb 24, 2014 6:24 AM
Community Service - Ben Cook is with the American University Rationalists and Atheists (AURA). He Don Wharton Feb 24, 2014 2:24 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Entropy - Evolution can favor biological energy efficiency, sustainability via diversity, etc. and entropy production, all simultaneously. There are mu Mathew Goldstein Feb 23, 2014 9:41 PM
Entropy - I sent a similar version of this email last night.  It is in my sent folder but was never processed through meetup to the rest of us.  Perhaps that email will appear a couple of weeks later like a prior email that was massively delayed.  I am Don Wharton Feb 23, 2014 3:20 PM
Don't Shoot me, I'm Only the Messenger! (was "Counting the Angels") - Don, From your post here there seems to be a fair bit Martin Feb 23, 2014 1:27 PM
Re: [atheists-27] The Marionette’s Lament - Confusion on this topic is common. Entropy is Mathew Goldstein Feb 22, 2014 11:38 PM
Re: [atheists-27] The Marionette’s Lament -   @Mathew   Umm.. I don't see the absorbtion of energy by life (biomass) a E K Feb 22, 2014 10:10 PM
Re: [atheists-27] The Marionette’s Lament - Mathew Goldstein Feb 22, 2014 7:29 PM
Re: [atheists-27] The Marionette’s Lament - Eddie, I think you have a maj Don Wharton Feb 22, 2014 5:59 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Survey of Philosophers - I sent this email back on February 8. Can someone figure out why it shows up Don Wharton Feb 22, 2014 5:32 PM
Re: [atheists-27] The Marionette’s Lament - Aren't empathy and compassion towards the weak (not numbering children, progeny here) - in direct contrast with natral sellection? Another thing, when we talk about higher animals, E K Feb 22, 2014 5:27 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Survey of Philosophers - Lemme guess, survey taken in US? :P Where "free will" is part of the cultural fabric? (Nawt trollin, srsly. Ceilin Kitteh {All praizuz n obeisunciz to her, cuz she E K Feb 22, 2014 5:07 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Survey of Philosophers - They actually calculated t Don Wharton Feb 22, 2014 2:18 PM
Re: [atheists-27] The Marionette’s Lament - Although I agree that morality is likely an evolved result of group social dynamics, I think it is a Mathew Goldstein Feb 22, 2014 9:55 AM
Re: [atheists-27] The Marionette’s Lament - Eddie, asked about Don Wharton Feb 22, 2014 2:04 AM
Counting the Angels - I am clearly going to enjoy Eddie's Don Wharton Feb 20, 2014 4:24 AM
Re: [atheists-27] another atheist equivocating to retain free-will - . <--- Point You ---> # The moment I opened a Webster E K Feb 19, 2014 2:40 AM
Re: [atheists-27] another atheist equivocating to retain free-will - Eddie, I am quite satisfied that Merriam-Webster has c Martin Feb 19, 2014 12:17 AM
Re: [atheists-27] another atheist equivocating to retain free-will - Azerbeijani-English Dictionary: "free will" -- 1) Ahhmm... ummm... some British, imperialist underpinning of fascizoid ideology, designed for domestic oppression as well. Who the he E K Feb 18, 2014 11:13 PM
Re: [atheists-27] another atheist equivocating to retain free-will - Could it be that Webster's (I prefer Oxford's anyhow) is just providing 2 different ways to say the same thing, 2 associations to the same ending braincell, rather than providing 2 different, E K Feb 18, 2014 10:24 PM
Re: [atheists-27] another atheist equivocating to retain free-will - Eddie, No problem, I'll explain further. In fact, than Martin Feb 18, 2014 9:22 PM
Re: [atheists-27] another atheist equivocating to retain free-will - "Legalistic" concept of "free will"? And not in the sphere of philosophy? Judicial system exists in a suspension, somewhere in the clouds? Judges are not amateur philosophers? (some I enc E K Feb 18, 2014 8:56 PM
Re: [atheists-27] another atheist equivocating to retain free-will - Pankai, I totally agree with you! I have n Martin Feb 18, 2014 7:04 PM
Re: [atheists-27] another atheist equivocating to retain free-will - Don, OK, now I have seen your post on the Wiki entry. Martin Feb 18, 2014 5:00 PM
Re: [atheists-27] another atheist equivocating to retain free-will - martin, your point is well taken. but switching from determinism to a naturalistic quantum world view still doesn't save free will. the outcomes of events might not be known with certainty, but they are still governed Pankaj Feb 18, 2014 4:42 PM
Re: [atheists-27] another atheist equivocating to retain free-will - Mathew, Let's straighten some things up: Neither Sussk Martin Feb 18, 2014 2:23 PM
Irrelevance Incarnate - Eddie and I view things quite differently in many ways. However, he is quite corre Don Wharton Feb 18, 2014 1:05 PM
Re: [atheists-27] another atheist equivocating to retain free-will - Martin, I would not pronounce on whether or not t'Hooft or Susskind is right about the likelihood of a pre quantum mechanics that defines the Mathew Goldstein Feb 18, 2014 12:32 PM
Re: [atheists-27] another atheist equivocating to retain free-will - Pankai, First, thank you very much for bot Martin Feb 18, 2014 11:49 AM
Re: [atheists-27] another atheist equivocating to retain free-will - No, of course not. Religion is not a necessary precursor to human rights violations. A psychopath, for example, needs no reason, or an excuse for doing harm. He does it if he ca E K Feb 18, 2014 10:03 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Wiki - Determinism - There can be a distinction between determinism and deterministic. Our universe can be deterministic, yet it does not follow that determinism, Mathew Goldstein Feb 18, 2014 9:30 AM
Re: [atheists-27] another atheist equivocating to retain free-will - We could talk about human rights and law also, but I am wary of turning history and current events into an Mathew Goldstein Feb 18, 2014 9:08 AM
Re: [atheists-27] another atheist equivocating to retain free-will - So we can comfortably say that Laplace was a muslim? And hasn't the idea of "free will" sprung up in opposition to such a fatalistic view of the World? And regardless of E K Feb 18, 2014 6:30 AM
Re: [atheists-27] another atheist equivocating to retain free-will - Obviously you did not see my Wiki - determinism post. I fully agree that the Don Wharton Feb 18, 2014 3:48 AM
Re: [atheists-27] another atheist equivocating to retain free-will - Don, A number of points: Martin Feb 18, 2014 2:12 AM
Wiki - Determinism - I just read through the Wikipedia entry on Determinism. They have a vast variety o Don Wharton Feb 17, 2014 11:48 PM
Re: [atheists-27] another atheist equivocating to retain free-will - Martin and others, Google at Don Wharton Feb 17, 2014 10:57 PM
Re: [atheists-27] The Marionette’s Lament - Before I say anything else, Don, would you be so kind to devote a few sentences to giving us your opinion on what the metrics for morality should be? What is your understanding of this? E K Feb 17, 2014 10:44 PM
Re: [atheists-27] another atheist equivocating to retain free-will - I fail to see how introducing a scientific theory, fully understood by perhaps only a section of theoretical physicists, into this argument, is helpful in any way. I certainly don't want E K Feb 17, 2014 10:36 PM
Re: [atheists-27] another atheist equivocating to retain free-will - Juan Maldacena of the Institute for Advance Study in Prince Mathew Goldstein Feb 17, 2014 9:06 PM
Re: [atheists-27] another atheist equivocating to retain free-will - Mathew, Well, you said it: " Determinism is impossib Martin Feb 17, 2014 8:15 PM
Re: [atheists-27] another atheist equivocating to retain free-will - a couple of observations. in the debate of free-will, i think the word "a deterministic universe" applies, because the view is - our actions are determined by the physical universe (quantum and otherwise), rather than "me mak Pankaj Feb 17, 2014 8:05 PM
Re: [atheists-27] another atheist equivocating to retain free-will - Quantum mechanics is stochastic, d Mathew Goldstein Feb 17, 2014 6:42 PM
Re: [atheists-27] another atheist equivocating to retain free-will - Don, I don't have a comment on free will, but I just h Martin Feb 17, 2014 5:00 PM
The Broken Circle Breakdown - did anyone besides me make it to National Geographic tonite to watch the movie, "The Broken Circle Breakdown"? friend of Smokey the Bear Feb 16, 2014 11:03 PM

People in this
Meetup are also in:

Log in

Not registered with us yet?

Sign up

Meetup members, Log in

By clicking "Sign up" or "Sign up using Facebook", you confirm that you accept our Terms of Service & Privacy Policy