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Re: [atheists-27] Bernie Sanders CNN Town Hall on his "spiritual feelings" - I like Bernie Sanders because he's authentic; you could even call him the Ron Paul of the Left. But I find some of his ideas too far out, unl Tom F. Feb 6, 2016 4:31 PM
RE: [atheists-27] Bernie Sanders CNN Town Hall on his "spiritual feelings" - Woody, I think Bernie is more atheistic than an anyon Don W. Feb 6, 2016 4:19 PM
RE: [atheists-27] Bernie Sanders CNN Town Hall on his "spiritual feelings" - Andrew Feb 6, 2016 3:23 PM
RE: [atheists-27] Bernie Sanders CNN Town Hall on his "spiritual feelings" - None of us are mind readers. However, the most powerfu Don W. Feb 6, 2016 2:20 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Bernie Sanders CNN Town Hall on his "spiritual feelings" - If you are really thinking and believing that you can be an American president today you do not have choice to show people that you a man of faith in something. A very simple calculation otherwise you will not to be elected.  40% percent o Woody L. Feb 6, 2016 12:02 AM
Bernie Sanders CNN Town Hall on his "spiritual feelings" - I'm not the type to make assertions without absolute evidence since I - as a skeptic - understand how the burden of proof works but C'MON....Bernie....... http Devin C. Feb 5, 2016 9:46 PM
Should WASH Become a Chapter of AHA - Preview not available Don W. Feb 5, 2016 5:07 PM
Talking to the Enemy - Preview not available Don W. Feb 5, 2016 5:04 PM
RE: [atheists-27] Free Speech - Allison is quite correct that we have to think about the con Don W. Feb 4, 2016 12:39 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Free Speech - I agree with a lot of these statements regarding free speech.. There have been a few times when the KKK has come to Washington, DC to rally on the National Mall and I wanted to go see them and listen to them out of curiosity, but would people automatical Allison S. M. Feb 4, 2016 9:06 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Pro-Libertarianism - There is also an inconsistency. The people who decide who cannot speak, or who disrupt an event featuring a speaker they do not li Mathew G. Feb 3, 2016 9:20 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Pro-Libertarianism - There are certain common-law limits on free speech. It can be punished if it's libelous, slanderous, intended to provoke harm to another, or a viol Tom F. Feb 3, 2016 7:35 PM
RE: [atheists-27] Pro-Libertarianism - Devin, I wanted to get back to the free speech issue Don W. Feb 3, 2016 4:47 PM
RE: [atheists-27] Economics-response to Nick - Preview not available Don W. Feb 3, 2016 12:36 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Economics-response to Nick - Thanks Don! Barring some unforeseen event, I plan on being at the Atheist happy hour at James Hoban's on Wednesday, and would be happy to discuss if you are interested. Best, Nick Nick Jan 31, 2016 11:29 PM
RE: [atheists-27] Economics-response to Nick - Nick, Thanks so much for your thoughtful Don W. Jan 31, 2016 11:20 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Economics-response to Nick - Thank you so much for your posts, Nick.  I have been reading these exchanges with interest and reall Sam M. Jan 31, 2016 11:03 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Economics-response to Nick - So I actually agree with most of the stuff that was written in response to my e-mails. I should've been more specific when I used the phrase " economics literature " -- I wasn& Nick Jan 31, 2016 4:46 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Economics-response to Nick - Here is an early 2012 article by Krugman http://krug Mathew G. Jan 30, 2016 11:31 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Economics-response to Nick - An irony here is that the Cold War was very much utilized as a justification for changing laws to establish government monotheism in the name of our being different/better than the Soviet Union (read the Congressional record, this is sometimes very blata Mathew G. Jan 30, 2016 6:57 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Economics-response to Nick - I know you are writing to Nick, but I will say anyway that I think it strange that someone who achieved the professional success that Greenspan did endorsed Ayn Rand's views as totally as Greenspan appeared to. Ayn Rand was smart, but as a philosopher or Mathew G. Jan 30, 2016 5:56 PM
RE: [atheists-27] Economics-response to Nick - Thank you Mathew. I do find myself strongly differing Don W. Jan 30, 2016 4:42 PM
RE: [atheists-27] Pro-Libertarianism - Preview not available Don W. Jan 30, 2016 4:12 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Economics-response to Nick - And I think Krugman would argue that for some economists there is no alternative evidence, no change to the evidence as circumstances ch Mathew G. Jan 30, 2016 4:08 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Pro-Libertarianism - Jared, it is like this: The evidence that communicates in favor of supernaturalism is sparse and weak while the evidence that spea Mathew G. Jan 30, 2016 2:54 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Pro-Libertarianism - Yes, I think most people are skeptical of government. I also think that it's fairly clear the "big government" is not currently the problem i Claude C. Jan 30, 2016 1:45 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Pro-Libertarianism - I speak against government actions, laws, and policies regularly. I think your definition of what is required to qualify as being Mathew G. Jan 30, 2016 12:13 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Pro-Libertarianism - I feel like I have hijacked this discussion, so I will only add my final thoughts on this matter (unless someone wants to ask me a question).  I was religious most of my life, and only very recently became an atheis Jared R. Jan 30, 2016 5:53 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Economics-response to Nick - I think that's a fair characterization. I'd say that there is far less disagreement in economics literature about what IS true than about how we sh Nick Jan 29, 2016 8:36 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Economics-response to Nick - Years ago, I heard Milton Friedman speak. He said that economists tend to mostly agree on economics. Where they strongly disagree is ab Tom F. Jan 29, 2016 7:45 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Economics-response to Nick - Hi Don, Even though I work in economics, I may actually have a slightly more negative view of the field than you do. If you're using the term "science" in the most general sense of the wor Nick Jan 29, 2016 5:04 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Pro-Libertarianism - Colette, I agree that corporations and (our) government are generally answerable to the public in different ways.  However, I am not sure I agree that they are incomparable.  What do you mean that they are incomparable, Jared R. Jan 29, 2016 4:57 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Pro-Libertarianism - I'm not implying anything. I'm saying that corps and gov are answerable to the public in different ways. They're not comparable. I agree Colette G. Jan 29, 2016 4:48 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Pro-Libertarianism - Colette, Great questions.  You seem to imply that collective financial will is inferior to voter will.  However, your example doesn’t seem to support this c Jared R. Jan 29, 2016 4:39 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Pro-Libertarianism - "Which institution do you think is more answerable to a collective will, corporations or government?" Corporations are obligated to collective financial will. Money speaks. If the consumers stop purchasing a product, the company is forced to change o Colette G. Jan 29, 2016 4:22 PM
Economics-response to Nick - Nick, Thank you for your most excellent contribution Don W. Jan 29, 2016 3:00 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Pro-Libertarianism - Nick, Thanks for the information.  I think people use talk in broad terms debating economics, such as liberal vs conservative, as a code for their perspective on reality and what that person values.  For example, someon Jared R. Jan 29, 2016 2:02 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Pro-Libertarianism - Don, Thanks for the reply.  You make a great point that both corporations and government can be "good" or "evil."  After all, they are run by humans, and often are a reflection of individuals' mo Jared R. Jan 29, 2016 1:46 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Pro-Libertarianism - Pankaj, Which institution do you think is more answerable to a collective will, corporations or government?  One could argue a company is more answerable to a collective will, because as consumers we can stop consuming t Jared R. Jan 29, 2016 1:40 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Pro-Libertarianism - Jared, I think the difference can be posed thus: which is more likely - An institution which is (however imperfectly) answerable to the collective will uphold the interests of the collective, or an institution which is no Pankaj Jan 29, 2016 1:29 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Pro-Libertarianism - Hi all, This is Nick Buffie of the Center for Economic and Policy Research. I haven't read through all the previous messages in full, but I thought I'd weight in with a few points. Nick Jan 29, 2016 12:54 PM
RE: [atheists-27] Pro-Libertarianism - Jared, You are absolutely correct when you criticize Don W. Jan 29, 2016 12:42 PM
Re: [atheists-27] FW: Support the Darwin Day Resolutions - We asked Maryland Governor Hogan to issue a Darwin Day proclamation. It is easy to ask, there is a web site for citizens to submit Mathew G. Jan 29, 2016 9:32 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Pro-Libertarianism - I find it interesting that so many people are ignorant of their own biases.  Some people assume corporations are inherently evil, and others assume it is the government that is inherently evil.  Does less power of government/corporations Jared R. Jan 29, 2016 9:26 AM
FW: Support the Darwin Day Resolutions - Preview not available Don W. Jan 28, 2016 11:49 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Pro-Libertarianism - Libertarianism is a great concept in theory. What's not to love about individual liberty, free markets, and minimum bureaucracy? But its underlying assumption that people will not abuse their freedom is its biggest flaw. Vineet Jan 28, 2016 8:38 PM
RE: [atheists-27] Pro-Libertarianism - Tom, Obviously with this last post you are not lookin Don W. Jan 28, 2016 8:25 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Pro-Libertarianism - It's not clear to me why libertarianism would lead to control of the media by the super rich. Today, anyone can be a writer, photographer, or Tom F. Jan 28, 2016 7:44 PM
RE: [atheists-27] Pro-Libertarianism - Mathew, Obviously you and I have much we agree on.&nb Don W. Jan 28, 2016 7:04 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Pro-Libertarianism - I don't want to get into details because I am in no way an economic/political scribe but what you are speaking about, Don, appears to be more economic libertarianism and free market, invisible hand, leisse faire capitalism that the libe Devin C. Jan 28, 2016 6:13 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Pro-Libertarianism - I think this topic is off topic for an atheist email group. Nevertheless, Mathew G. Jan 28, 2016 6:06 PM
RE: [atheists-27] Pro-Libertarianism - Woody, I don't think that your post translated well.& Don W. Jan 28, 2016 5:19 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Pro-Libertarianism - I translate the interesting position of former the cabinet member of Polish Government, Ministry of Finance published on SSA-GMU Facebook. Woody L. Jan 28, 2016 4:03 PM
Pro-Libertarianism - The power Don W. Jan 28, 2016 1:06 PM
RE: [atheists-27] Bernie - Preview not available Don W. Jan 27, 2016 10:52 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Bernie - I think Sanders called himself a socialist when he was a mayor in Vermont. He reportedly governed pra Mathew G. Jan 27, 2016 9:34 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Bernie - Mathew G. Jan 27, 2016 8:53 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Bernie - I'm curious. I know Bernie has now stepped forth as a socialist. But when did he decide to label himself as such? I've been following hi Colette G. Jan 27, 2016 8:24 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Bernie - The Democrats have lurched as far to the left as the GOP has to the right. That leaves a huge gap in the center, where most independents (like me) Tom F. Jan 27, 2016 8:17 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Bernie - I think it is interesting that the possible f Robert W A. Jan 27, 2016 7:13 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Bernie - I believe Bernie (feel the Bern!) has said in the past that he is culturally Jewish.  I could be wrong, but I think I remember him saying it. I don't know if there is anything that screams "atheist" more th Devin C. Jan 27, 2016 6:32 PM
Bernie - Preview not available Don W. Jan 27, 2016 4:06 PM
Re: [atheists-27] AHA, Reason Rally, Etc - because he is a Polish Jew not Polish Catholic like the most Poles. WL On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Vineet < Woody L. Jan 27, 2016 1:38 PM
Re: [atheists-27] AHA, Reason Rally, Etc - You're right, Don. The intellect helps see what's real - that the US is a plutocracy - but music like this gives hope. And maybe there is hope! I just read that Bernie Sanders doesn't participate in organized religion. Glad to k Vineet Jan 27, 2016 12:54 PM
RE: [atheists-27] AHA, Reason Rally, Etc - Preview not available Don W. Jan 27, 2016 10:45 AM
RE: [atheists-27] CFI to Merge with Richard Dawkins Foundation - Preview not available Don W. Jan 27, 2016 10:32 AM
meantime meet - Woody L. Jan 26, 2016 9:14 PM
mean·time - Woody L. Jan 26, 2016 9:09 PM
Re: [atheists-27] AHA, Reason Rally, Etc - The rise of the likes of Trump and Cruz just makes me lose my faith in humanity, but when I start feeling like that, I listen to "Democracy" by Leonard Cohen, a song that brilliantly describes the political scene in the Vineet Jan 26, 2016 8:05 PM
AHA, Reason Rally, Etc - Preview not available Don W. Jan 26, 2016 7:48 PM
CFI to Merge with Richard Dawkins Foundation - Preview not available Don W. Jan 21, 2016 11:58 AM
Re: [atheists-27] FW: New members in DC Region Secular Blacks - What about  http://www.meetup.com/Secular-­Sistahs-DMV/events/ http://www.aahumanism.net Woody L. Dec 24, 2015 11:11 AM
Re: [atheists-27] FW: New members in DC Region Secular Blacks - Hello Don, Sometime in January sounds good to me. zeteothink Dec 23, 2015 8:30 PM
FW: New members in DC Region Secular Blacks - Lance and Aaron, Something that might be delightful t Don W. Dec 23, 2015 5:59 PM
Re: [atheists-27] re Star Wars - thanks for the comments Don. I think one way Democrats play to the religious gallery is by repeating the phrase "everyone should be able to achieve their God gifted potential". if i'm right, Hillary repeated that a few times. Pankaj Dec 21, 2015 9:35 AM
RE: [atheists-27] re Star Wars - Pankaj, It looks like you were right. The Repub Don W. Dec 20, 2015 11:04 PM
Re: [atheists-27] re Star Wars - i thought it was a not very brilliant attempt to get with "it". but i guess that's the best way to have mass appeal - not be very brilliant. i think even the republicans wouldn't be so cynical as to pounce on this. she cou Pankaj Dec 19, 2015 11:30 PM
RE: [atheists-27] re Star Wars - Oh my! Hillary Clinton just closed her debate performa Don W. Dec 19, 2015 10:56 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Street Epistemology - Mathew G. Dec 19, 2015 7:06 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Street Epistemology - http://www.ora.tv/rubinreport/­2015/12/18/peter-boghossian-an­d-dave-rubin-critical-thinking­-atheism-and-fai Woody L. Dec 19, 2015 4:27 PM
Re: [atheists-27] re Star Wars - Belief, or pretending to believe, in the "Force" fulfills the need to socialization and sense of belonging that convention religion fills. It's lik Tom F. Dec 19, 2015 3:34 PM
Re: [atheists-27] re Star Wars - Don, Your email illustrates the "performance art" aspect of religion. &nbs Glenn Dec 19, 2015 2:45 PM
RE: [atheists-27] re Star Wars - Glenn, You and I are totally alike in how we "believe Don W. Dec 19, 2015 2:03 PM
RE: [atheists-27] re Star Wars - Preview not available Don W. Dec 19, 2015 1:45 PM
Re: [atheists-27] re Star Wars - I'm a big Star Wars fan from jump - still have the 1977-vintage toys to prove it. So I have been chomping at the bit to see this new episode. My Catholic wife asked me recently why I could be such a fan, given the Force and my apostasy. I replied with Glenn Dec 19, 2015 11:17 AM
Re: RE: [atheists-27] re Star Wars - i saw the 3D version of star wars flick yesterday at the 9am showing. friend of Smokey the B. Dec 19, 2015 6:58 AM
RE: [atheists-27] re Star Wars - Allison, I had a laugh with the line "separation of f Don W. Dec 19, 2015 1:42 AM
Re: [atheists-27] re Star Wars - That is funny. The one about the force seems more like something from Indecisives anonymous. I'm up for a Star Wars movie anytime up to the 26th of December, after that I will be out of town. I spoke to some people who saw the 7:30 showing tonight Allison S. M. Dec 18, 2015 12:55 AM
re Star Wars - Don W. Dec 17, 2015 9:19 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Star Wars - I'll be out of town until Dec 30. Siggy Dec 17, 2015 5:10 PM
Star Wars - My guess is that most of our group will be wanting to see th Don W. Dec 17, 2015 5:03 PM
RE: [atheists-27] Street Epistemology - Preview not available Don W. Dec 17, 2015 4:30 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Street Epistemology - It is an effort to promote better standards of belief justification by prompting for the belief justification (with questions) and then Mathew G. Dec 17, 2015 9:48 AM
Street Epistemology - Preview not available Don W. Dec 17, 2015 3:04 AM
RE: [atheists-27] It is the 4th anniversary of Christopher Hitchens death: April 13, 1949 - December 15, 2011 - Hitchens has an excellent instinct about how to skewer stupi Don W. Dec 16, 2015 1:47 PM
Re: [atheists-27] It is the 4th anniversary of Christopher Hitchens death: April 13, 1949 - December 15, 2011 - Thank you for the reminder. I also enjoy the Mark Twain quote. On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 2:55 PM, zeteothink < lh Colette G. Dec 15, 2015 4:09 PM
It is the 4th anniversary of Christopher Hitchens death: April 13, 1949 - December 15, 2011 - ​“One must state it plainly. Religion comes from the period of human prehist zeteothink Dec 15, 2015 2:53 PM
RE: [atheists-27] ISIS spawned from income inequality? - Preview not available Don W. Dec 15, 2015 12:06 AM
Islamic State will Determine the Next US President - As we all know the recent San Bernadino attack has grabbed a Don W. Dec 14, 2015 12:45 AM
Re: [atheists-27] ISIS spawned from income inequality? - " Robert W A. Dec 13, 2015 11:35 AM

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