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Re: [atheists-27] For your consideration of "Why God Will Not Die" - This year old article is good, thank you for linking to it, but I also think the article exhibits some flaws. In particular, it ar Mathew G. Dec 6, 2015 2:50 PM
For your consideration of "Why God Will Not Die" - http://www.theatlantic.com/mag­azine/archive/2014/12/why-god-­will-not-die/382231/?utm_sourc­e=SFFB My answer Woody L. Dec 6, 2015 8:43 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Bad Ideas - Don, I think you make an increasingly convincing argument in the nee Jimmy G Dec 5, 2015 7:57 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Bad Ideas - Preview not available Jimmy G Dec 5, 2015 7:06 AM
Bad Ideas - Preview not available Don W. Dec 5, 2015 3:43 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Robert Dear - Don, I have a different take on events as they play out on the world stage, in that I believe this is not only a war on terrori Jimmy G Dec 5, 2015 1:03 AM
RE: [atheists-27] Robert Dear - Jim, I am not saying your comment is constitutes a "n Don W. Dec 4, 2015 10:29 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Robert Dear - Glenn Greenwald supported the invasion of Iraq, then he changed his mind (apparently sometime not long after the war ended) and th Mathew G. Dec 4, 2015 3:13 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Robert Dear - I have to agree that Sam Harris is far from a war-monger or a military interventionist. A lot of that reputation owes to a lie that he supported the Iraq war, which he actually didn't. He was opposed to the decision to go Nick Dec 4, 2015 10:47 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Robert Dear - Don, I think characterizing my comment as a "negative response" to events is not accurate. If Jimmy G Dec 4, 2015 9:09 AM
RE: [atheists-27] Robert Dear - Pankaj, Obviously I have been passionately against in Don W. Dec 3, 2015 4:57 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Robert Dear - Don, The primary function of a government is to protect its citizens in peacetime and wartime. What makes you Jimmy G Dec 3, 2015 7:39 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Robert Dear - My impression of Harris' views is as follows - he is an interventionist, and his criticism of islam mostly targets a western audience. i don't see him being a positive force on either count. interventionist strategies invariably sto Pankaj Dec 3, 2015 5:07 AM
RE: [atheists-27] Robert Dear - Pankaj, Frankly I agree with you on this. Harri Don W. Dec 3, 2015 2:26 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Robert Dear - though i agree with most of what don says, i dont think the framing of carson and chomsky as extremists on either side of spectrum, with harris in the middle is necessarily fair.  Pankaj Dec 3, 2015 2:00 AM
RE: [atheists-27] Robert Dear - Thanks Nick, Boy from the comments Greenwald did not Don W. Dec 3, 2015 1:36 AM
RE: [atheists-27] Robert Dear - Yes. What is happening is France does confirm what Sam Don W. Dec 3, 2015 1:30 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Robert Dear - This is what Sam was referring to:  https://twitter.com/ggreenwald­/status/668856676091604992 Nick Nick Dec 3, 2015 1:20 AM
RE: [atheists-27] Robert Dear - Colette, Sam Harris has moves from blog text to a loa Don W. Dec 3, 2015 1:04 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Robert Dear - I agree with your comments about Sam Harris and his views. Although, I think the very nature if his views stir controver Jimmy G Dec 2, 2015 10:14 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Robert Dear - I've read quite a bit of Chomsky and was floored when I picked up some books written by the obscure Anthroposophical philosopher, Rudolf Stei Jimmy G Dec 2, 2015 9:52 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Robert Dear - I like Sam Harris, I think he has some really enlightening things to say about Christianity and religion - and I especially appreciate his courage Colette G. Dec 2, 2015 9:19 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Robert Dear - I have heard someone say they prefer Trump over Carson, but Carson over Chomsky? I do not follow what Chomsky says, he is not runn Mathew G. Dec 2, 2015 9:10 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Robert Dear - Different religions can impose their own criteria on membership and belonging to Mathew G. Dec 2, 2015 8:20 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Hypocrisy - If you like Prohibition and Prohibition II (the "war on drugs"), wait till they ban abortion. Those of wealth and privilege will always have Tom F. Dec 2, 2015 7:03 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Hypocrisy - I went to Catholic school as a child. I remember going to an anti-abortion lecture. One of the speakers was a woman who had an abortion and later r Colette G. Dec 2, 2015 5:21 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Hypocrisy - Reminds me of that character in the movie we saw, Roulette. Very anti-abortion until SHE needed one. Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: Tom F. Dec 2, 2015 4:53 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Robert Dear - Don, I think the political issue you speak to is most releva Jimmy G Dec 2, 2015 4:09 PM
Shutting Down Mosques - The AP is now reporting that three mosques have been shut do Don W. Dec 2, 2015 3:34 PM
Hypocrisy - Jim, We briefly had John Nugent, the then head of Mar Don W. Dec 2, 2015 3:28 PM
RE: [atheists-27] Robert Dear - Colette, Yep! And we can be equally sure that " Don W. Dec 2, 2015 3:15 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Robert Dear - That's how they excuse their religion from complicity in the violence. Sent from my iPad On Dec 2, 2015, at 1:07 PM, Colette G Robert W A. Dec 2, 2015 3:15 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Robert Dear - I'm sure "moderate" Christians will argue that this was just the action of one individual with mental problems and has no real connection to Christianity...  Colette Colette G. Dec 2, 2015 1:06 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Robert Dear - Don, If you've ever spoken to some of the people standing outside one of the clinics protesting, you Jimmy G Dec 2, 2015 12:53 PM
Robert Dear - The Planned Parenthood attacker was very religious and clear Don W. Dec 2, 2015 12:43 PM
RE: [atheists-27] True Threat - Preview not available Don W. Dec 2, 2015 1:09 AM
Re: [atheists-27] True Threat - People who believe that global warming is real "are the equivalent of the Flat-Earthers" - Cruz. I do not think Mathew G. Dec 1, 2015 11:15 PM
RE: [atheists-27] True Threat - Preview not available Don W. Dec 1, 2015 10:18 PM
Re: [atheists-27] True Threat - Preview not available Jimmy G Dec 1, 2015 9:52 PM
RE: [atheists-27] True Threat - Preview not available Don W. Dec 1, 2015 9:20 PM
Re: [atheists-27] True Threat - Don, I see the similarities. Extremist Christians applauding murder and mayhem just like the Palest Jimmy G Dec 1, 2015 5:02 PM
Re: [atheists-27] True Threat - Preview not available Robert W A. Dec 1, 2015 4:37 PM
RE: [atheists-27] True Threat - Preview not available Don W. Dec 1, 2015 4:14 PM
RE: [atheists-27] True Threat - Preview not available Don W. Dec 1, 2015 3:42 PM
Re: [atheists-27] True Threat - Mathew G. Dec 1, 2015 12:12 PM
RE: [atheists-27] US Public Becoming Less Religious - I fully agree with your assessment of Sarah Haider. I Don W. Dec 1, 2015 1:09 AM
Latest from Sam Harris - Preview not available Don W. Dec 1, 2015 12:47 AM
Re: [atheists-27] True Threat - "This is a one off by someone who seems to more than a bit unbalanced." Or perhaps not. I read a comment to a Rachael Maddow post about the incident in which a women claimed to be a neighbor to that clinic, who said she knew the perpetrator's face, an Robert W A. Nov 30, 2015 6:19 AM
RE: [atheists-27] True Threat - Preview not available Don W. Nov 30, 2015 2:59 AM
Re: [atheists-27] True Threat - Every single human right has the potential to conflict with one or more other human rights. No one human right is permanently prio Mathew G. Nov 29, 2015 11:29 AM
Re: [atheists-27] True Threat - Mathew G. Nov 28, 2015 11:50 PM
Re: [atheists-27] True Threat - Thanks for researching that, Don. I’d not seen this befor Robert W A. Nov 26, 2015 10:34 PM
Re: [atheists-27] US Public Becoming Less Religious - This is consistent with trends in other developed countries. In Europe, the role of religion is primarily ceremonial and symbolic. Most Tom F. Nov 26, 2015 8:07 PM
Re: [atheists-27] US Public Becoming Less Religious - That was a great speech. I remember watching it and feeling vindicated. Se Nick Nov 26, 2015 1:32 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Religious Killing - I saw the late emails. On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 12:00 AM, Don Wharton < [address removed] > Steven J. Nov 26, 2015 12:23 PM
Re: [atheists-27] US Public Becoming Less Religious - Here is a video of a liberal Muslim speaking at an American Humanist Association conference in May complaining about non-Muslim liberals Mathew G. Nov 26, 2015 12:16 PM
Re: [atheists-27] US Public Becoming Less Religious - I have numerous friends from the various cultures in the middle east who are former muslims and now secularists or atheists. One thing we sh Jimmy G Nov 26, 2015 6:30 AM
RE: [atheists-27] Religious Killing - Preview not available Don W. Nov 26, 2015 2:59 AM
True Threat - I put some effort into researching the law that might be app Don W. Nov 26, 2015 2:22 AM
Re: [atheists-27] The crazies are back! - I would be happy to post an event for Martin if we have even two others who say they would want to join him. I fully understand Jim's notion of using this as a civics lesson. It may be a media opportunity if the press shows up. We might be able t Don W. Nov 26, 2015 1:23 AM
US Public Becoming Less Religious - I love the title of the report, US Public Becoming Less Religious. Another stat is that those who attend a religious se Don W. Nov 26, 2015 1:23 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Religious Killing - Preview not available Jimmy G Nov 25, 2015 9:25 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Religious Killing - Foreign policy sometimes addresses war and killing and there must be room t Mathew G. Nov 24, 2015 9:33 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Religious Killing - Don, this is one of the most contentious issu Robert W A. Nov 24, 2015 8:31 PM
RE: [atheists-27] Religious Killing - Well I guess I am a minority of one on this issue at the tim Don W. Nov 24, 2015 7:59 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Religious Killing - The Supreme Court has repeatedly come down on the side of free speech and outlawing any kind of prior restraint on political speech. The two Robert W A. Nov 24, 2015 7:01 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Religious Killing - Mathew G. Nov 24, 2015 5:16 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Religious Killing - Collette, Your side note hits the mark on the absurdity of being accused of a long list of maladies for m Jimmy G Nov 24, 2015 4:56 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Religious Killing - Jim, I wholeheartedly agree. The government has no right to dictate religious practices so long as these practices are not injurious to society. The government does however have the right to prosecute any Muslim in Colette G. Nov 24, 2015 4:33 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Religious Killing - Hi Don, I understand your point and agree that we can indeed take bold action against Jimmy G Nov 24, 2015 4:05 PM
RE: [atheists-27] Religious Killing - Jim, I want to quote a prior message from you back to Don W. Nov 24, 2015 3:14 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Religious Killing - zeteothink Nov 24, 2015 1:45 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Religious Killing - " In our nation's tradition, people have always been free to practice their religion (or non Colette G. Nov 24, 2015 1:08 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Religious Killing - I'm assuming the leadership of Angola weighed the situation and the possible consequences of it and decided it was the safer path in the long Jimmy G Nov 24, 2015 11:53 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Religious Killing - I can't see that ending well. Muslims rarely take bulldozing a mosque very well, and get seriously pissed! I can see foreign fighters g Robert W A. Nov 24, 2015 11:32 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Religious Killing - In my opinion, the state should not get involved in the censorship of ideas, and if so, only in extreme cases. To be hone Jimmy G Nov 24, 2015 8:06 AM
Religious Killing - As the wo Don W. Nov 24, 2015 2:17 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Paris Atrocity - Historically, some Muslim rulers allegedly did not want their non-Muslim citizens to convert to Islam because fewer non-Muslim citizens Mathew G. Nov 22, 2015 10:27 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Paris Atrocity - Sounds right, just couldn’t remember the de Robert W A. Nov 22, 2015 1:07 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Paris Atrocity - Hi. I'm new. Only the adult male non-Muslims pay the tax, called jizya. Sent from Yahoo Mail Brad Nov 21, 2015 10:39 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Paris Atrocity - That’s been my understanding too. In Robert W A. Nov 21, 2015 7:54 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Paris Atrocity - There is a discrepancy between the descr Mathew G. Nov 21, 2015 6:29 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Paris Atrocity - Don't know if anybody follows the Middle East Media Research Institute, but this video was interesting:  https://www.facebook.com/52284­3594402466/vid Nick Nov 21, 2015 4:02 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Sanders and CIRA - Woody, Anybody who has lived through the last 50 years can attest to the fact that primarily capitalist e Jimmy G Nov 20, 2015 10:54 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Sanders and CIRA - Anti-Capitalism vs Anti-Socialism  A political economy five minute lesson for Bernie Sanders. Woody L. Nov 20, 2015 9:38 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Paris Atrocity - I think that is one of the evils of religion Robert W A. Nov 19, 2015 9:57 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Paris Atrocity - Don, I probably have a more negative view of Islam in general, since the murder or imprisonment of gay people is Jimmy G Nov 19, 2015 9:32 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Paris Atrocity - Preview not available Robert W A. Nov 19, 2015 9:13 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Paris Atrocity - Preview not available Jimmy G Nov 19, 2015 7:57 PM
RE: [atheists-27] Paris Atrocity - Preview not available Don W. Nov 19, 2015 5:33 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Paris Atrocity - And I quote myself: "It doesn’t mean that we can’t support the side we’d like to see win, but we should do so knowingly, and not counting on Lady Luck for us to get it right. If we keep on blundering about like a bull in a china shop, there’s n Robert W A. Nov 19, 2015 12:54 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Paris Atrocity - Didn't WW2 teach us the dangers of isolationism when confronted with a dangerous, aggressive force in the world? I belie Jimmy G Nov 19, 2015 7:33 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Paris Atrocity - One photo, which shows how the Islamic State has so much money 11/18/[masked]:45 Cord tanks with oil so long that resembles a train, you can see the most recent recording of Russian air raid on positions of the Islam Woody L. Nov 19, 2015 5:09 AM
Re: [atheists-27] Paris Atrocity - No, I am not saying we shouldn’t be involve Robert W A. Nov 18, 2015 8:30 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Paris Atrocity - Robert, Are you arguing that the US and Europe should not attack ISIS? If so, you haven't convinced me yet. I currently believe we should be attacking ISIS. Why? Matthew M. Nov 18, 2015 3:33 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Paris Atrocity - Preview not available Robert W A. Nov 18, 2015 3:12 PM
RE: [atheists-27] Paris Atrocity - Preview not available Don W. Nov 18, 2015 2:56 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Paris Atrocity - Straw man, Don. I never said world domination wasn't their long term goal - I stated clearly that it is! Robert W A. Nov 18, 2015 2:15 PM
Re: [atheists-27] Paris Atrocity - Hi Nick, Thanks for posting. I found the links to be riveting Jimmy G Nov 18, 2015 6:47 AM
Re: [atheists-27] IS statement of their justifications - Not much in there about Western occupation of Islamic lands (besides referring to France and Germany as Crusader nations). Nor Abu Ghraib, n Glenn Nov 18, 2015 6:21 AM

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