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  • Lensi

    Awesome conversation! Moving this to a discussion topic so that folks who want to opt out of the emails can. I'll post my thoughts there!

    August 10, 2013

  • Lensi

    You all have started quite the follow-on conversation! It's evident we have a diverse set of beliefs represented in the group. I'm curious though how you all view the nature of truth. Do you agree or disagree with this statement "truth is created not found"? (Rorty) It seems to me we fall at various points on this spectrum; where are you?

    August 7, 2013

    • John

      I guess my approach is different. I can commune with you, respect and love you, and enjoy your company while thinking and sharing with you that I believe your perception is clearly wrong. If I thought it was right or real, then I would accept it as my own. The reality of the elephant is that there is some aspect that feels like an ear and some aspect that feels like a tail. The reality is not that an individual has interpreted the elephants ear to be the sole nature of the elephant, nor that the tail is the sole nature of the elephant. Those are perceptions and not realities. Those are mutually exclusive interpretations and hence can not both be realities. From my view right now that also applies to religion. The Atheist and the Christian can not both be right. At least one has to be wrong because their world views are mutually exclusive of each other, regardless of whether or not either one from their vantage point can see the entire elephant.

      August 9, 2013

    • Charles A.

      Yes, our approaches are different. One can agree that an atheist and a Christian can both be right over mutually exclusive world views, with neither being wrong, only if one accepts that one's reality is only a part of the whole reality.

      August 10, 2013

  • Charles A.

    Does anyone believe in the concept of "original sin" - that Adam (either literally or symbolically) brought sin into the world?

    August 6, 2013

    • Charles A.

      Arguing the thesis of the Bible is not what I am suggesting. :o) I am suggesting that your thesis is from a Christian reality. A Jewish reality concerning a thesis starting with the Book a Genesis will not even look the same as a the beginning over arching thesis that you mention. Which is valid? A belief in the Fall of Adam from a Christian reality is just that - from a Christian reality. That reality does not invalidate anyone else's reality. In a debate, no one proves that their reality is the correct one. If your answer is I believe that the Fall of Adam is a literal event that happened in history, then I accept that as something that you see as truth.

      August 10, 2013

    • Charles A.

      One thing to keep in mind Babies are not born evil. They began to learn the moment that they are out of the womb. One of the first things that they learn are what happens when they cry. This crying can become manipulative to young parents and grow into manipulative behavior as a child. We also know that genetics affect the demeanor of a baby as well as other issues such as alcohol. We also know that young children are taught the double standards of adults very early on in their lives. I do not agree with you that young children are evidence that Adam is the cause of all this. To get along and make life beautiful as human beings? I think it starts with each individual and begin to acknowledge that each of us only has a part of the reality. Hold on to your reality dearly, but do understand the other person is holding on to theirs as dearly. Let us be like King Hiram and King Solomon and build a temple together. Definitely Great conversation, my friend!

      August 10, 2013

  • Kate

    I really enjoyed the conversations and the budding camaraderie. On a side note, this evening I watched a history channel program re memory that discussed how our brains reconstruct memories. Turns out that Gen. Patton swore that he could remember past lifetimes back to prehistoric times -- as part of Caesar's elite forces, fighting with. Napoleon & so forth.

    1 · August 3, 2013

    • Lucinda

      May I suggest that those wishing to explore reincarnation check out the readings of Edgar Cayce or books by Brian Weiss. I believe that our previous lives do impact our current incarnation.

      August 6, 2013

    • Charles A.

      Kate, I did look at the book on Amazon and it sounds like a good book from a devotional perspective. Since I do not believe that we have strayed from God and that He is trying to get us back, the book would not be something that I would want to read over what I am already reading. Thank you for the offer.

      August 6, 2013

  • Lucinda

    Really enjoyed the discussion. Met two new people.

    1 · August 4, 2013

  • Charles A.

    I am amazed at how this group can handle a format with no specified topic. It speaks volumes for the character that this meet up has. I thoroughly enjoyed the afternoon.

    1 · August 3, 2013

  • John

    Great people, excellent discussion. One thing that really struck me was the transparency and genuiness of the people. I found that most refreshing. It is also great to be among people who can have a great time together even when we disagree. Finally, the group has given me some things to think about.

    2 · August 3, 2013

  • Kate

    Almost there

    August 3, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    In here. Standing outside. Pink and white shirt

    August 3, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    I look forward to meeting everyone tomorrow.

    August 2, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Will be out of town.

    July 28, 2013

  • Debby B.

    I want to meet on Sunday afternoon!

    July 27, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Sorry. I had problems trying to get there. My metro directions didn't work. Will start a lot earlier next time trying to find the place. I use more public transport. Suggestion for a location. Bread and Chocolate in Old Town Alexandria on King Street. Good selections on coffee/teas, lite dishes, and main courses. Access by King Street Metro and free Old Town Trolley.

    July 6, 2013

    • Lensi

      LaQuita, I'm sorry you had such a tough time getting to the place. I'll be sending a poll this week asking folks to choose a location for the next meet-up. I'll be sure to include a metro accessible location in the options. I look forward to seeing you at the next meet-up!

      July 8, 2013

    • A former member
      A former member

      Thanks Lensi. Look forward to attending. Metro is handy.

      July 9, 2013

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