Re: [atheists-662] Quotes Conservatives Will Hate

From: Shenna B
Sent on: Saturday, July 13, 2013 10:44 AM
I was just getting ready to write something very similar to this.  I just don't think politics and religion should be discussed in the workplace.  Both topics raise the passions of too many people to unhealthy levels, and rarely can be debated civilly.  Best to leave it alone.   -----Shenna

On 7/13/2013 6:34 AM, Janice Rael wrote:
Religion and politics are too personal and divisive to be discussed in the workplace. Workers are supposed to be working, not debating theology.

I once had a job where they had hired a man who wore a large wooden rosary as a necklace (something I had been beaten for doing, as a child). The rosary guy made a huge show of his Catholic faith which made everyone else in the office uncomfortable. He was first to go when the company downsized. I had already learned to keep my opinions to myself by then, and was not out as an atheist.

Atheists face enough discrimination already, our co-workers may distrust or dislike us if they learn that we don't share their faith in God. But at any rate, the old saying goes, "never discuss politics or religion in polite company." In NJ, it could be a violation of employment law if an employer requires employees to attend meetings or events that center around religion or politics: http://www.costellomains.com/Never-Discuss-Politics-or-Religion-in-Polite-Company--3-56470.html Workplace discussion of religion could also lead to discrimination, another violation of employment law.

-Janice
DVAU


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Subject: Re: [atheists-662] Quotes Conservatives Will Hate
Date: Fri, 12 Jul[masked]:47:25 -0400

Why should the discussion of religion in the workplace be considered inappropriate?

Perhaps if you're a surgeon in the middle of an operation, debating with the anesthesiologist at that moment might be bad timing, and jeopardize the patient's health. But beyond the narrow confines of situations where work is adversely affected, I don't see why the admonition. Then again, they are lawyers, so what else matters other than the absolutely consistent application of all rules, and the exploitation of any deviation whatsoever?

On 7/10/[masked]:20 AM, Shenna Basye-Cara wrote:
Interesting, Dave.  I'm sure I know the one you are referring to.  But I'm curious -- how did this discussion start?  Because any discussion of religion in the workplace should be inappropriate, and if it was started by them and you were just chiming in with your opinion, I hardly see how that would be considered overstepping your bounds.  But you were right to discontinue the discussion -- job security is more important than proving a point to persons who are uninterested in debate, in my opinion.


On 7/9/2013 12:20 PM, Dave Martin wrote:
Yes, the truth hurts. I recently got into a discussion with a couple of my bosses (partners at the law firm where I work) who disagreed with me that many of our Founding Fathers were deists, not Christians. For job security reasons, I didn't pursue the matter further as one, the father of 7 children and a big fan of Thomas More, complained to the office manager that I was overstepping my bounds.

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Subject: [atheists-662] Quotes Conservatives Will Hate

Thanks to Shelley Evans for posting this link on the DAH Facebook page:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/07/04/35-founding-father-quotes-conservative-christians-will-hate/#ixzz2YPVV3QfS

Alan B. Palmer
A bright - Elevating and Illuminating a Naturalistic World View
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