Re: [ronpaul-26] Fw: Health Alert: Monsanto Protection Act Signed Into Law

From: Mandy R
Sent on: Sunday, March 31, 2013 3:06 PM
You clearly read far more into my response than what I actually said and put words in my mouth. I didn't make any if the assertions that you attributed to me. I guess I forgot that you're the Libertarian Police and are here to make sure that people interpret things and have corresponding opinions only as you see fit. While at times you make valid points, the obsession with trying to make everyone else wrong and only your interpretations "right" while generally taking a condescending tone (as you have throughout this entire thread from your very first response to Guy) serves only to weaken your arguments and positions. Responding point-by-point to your message is pointless--you'll turn it into whatever you want to to say anyhow, as you did with my last message. It's not an effective way to debate or share ideas and frankly, it's a waste of time. 

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On Mar 31, 2013, at 1:25 PM, Steve Young <[address removed]> wrote:

"is absolutely a threat to any citizens freedom of choice."

If that's a bad thing, then how do you condone limiting peoples freedom of choice? How can you validate a complicated highly technical scientific study about medical issues and claim you understand GMO, if you can't even ferret out the self contradiction of limiting people's choices to increase choices?

And I don't mean to make a statement about your mental acuity at all... I think this is the result of demonization of groups rather than making ethical judgements about specific actions. The problem is self evident...

Why is it okay for you to use government to limit someone's choice and not Monsanto? Clearly because you are judging about the group, not about the act. That's the result of portraying people as "less thans", "sub-humans". Historically that method results in mass murder. And honestly, I see the Monsanto propaganda heading that direction with suggestions we start setting fire to people's property, a la Waco.

I think we should avoid demonization and attacks against character, even for Monsanto, and even Obama. I think it takes down the wrong path.


Steve Young
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On Mar 31, 2013, at 9:02 AM, Mandy Randall wrote:

Well said Caroline! The proliferation of GMO ingredients in our food supply and the legal protection of the corrupt corporation that has pushed GMO products into 95% of consumer eaten foods (Monsanto) is absolutely a threat to any citizens freedom of choice. It has absolutely nothing to do with Steve's ridiculous assumption that Ron Paul supporters having become "Eco-nazis". It's clear that some people don't know much about genetically engineered food, how our government is protecting it, and how Monsanto is poisoning Americans. Monsanto's government protected antics threaten the life, liberty, and property of farmers and consumers every single day, Steve. Perhaps more research into the issue might clear it up a little. 

Mandy

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On Mar 30, 2013, at 9:53 PM, Caroline  <[address removed]> wrote:

The question is when did the Ron Paul crowd become Obama lover? Yes, FDA, USDA, etc, they all have major flaws. Don’t even get me started on vaccines. But this GMO issue goes much further than that. It’s not only about the freedom to know what we are eating but it’s also about the farmer’s rights to plant what they want without being prosecuted for unknowingly having GMO seeds on their organic farms that fly in from God knows where. It’s about protecting everyone’s rights, Steve, not just Monsanto’s. I think that’s what Ron Paul’s crowd is about.

 

Sincerely,

Caroline

 

From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Steve Young
Sent: Saturday, March 30,[masked]:38 PM
To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: [ronpaul-26] Fw: Health Alert: Monsanto Protection Act Signed Into Law

 

When did the Ron Paul crowed become eco-nazis and totally abandon libertarian principals and positions? Everyone should have the right to plant whatever they want without approval from the hallucinated authority known as government. What happened to ridding our selves of the FDA, USDA, and ending IP laws so market forces can regulate crap companies out of existence?

 

If the tact is going to be to abandon principals and randomly sick government on people based on nazi like demagoguery of certain groups rather than the ethics of specific behaviors, then I will bid you adieu.

 

 

On Mar 30, 2013, at 9:22 PM, Caroline wrote:



I totally agree with you Guy. This is outrageous and our government is continuing to fail us, lie after lie.

 

Sincerely,

Caroline

 

From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of G. Holland
Sent: Friday, March 29,[masked]:13 AM
To: [address removed]
Subject: [ronpaul-26] Fw: Health Alert: Monsanto Protection Act Signed Into Law

 

Subject: Health Alert: Monsanto Protection Act Signed Into Law


> Despite our successful efforts to generate more than 200,000 signatures
> and countless emails, President Obama has signed the Monsanto Protection
> Act (a rider present in the spending bill) into law. The act, which was
> actually written by Monsanto, gives the company immunity from US courts.
>
> In essence, it allows Monsanto to plant whatever they want -- regardless
> of health or environmental consequences.
>
> We have documented the entire event in a breaking story that we encourage
> you to share with others to get the word out:
>
http://naturalsociety.com/obama-signs-monsanto-protection-act-into-law-after-promising-gmo-labeling-in-2007/
>
> We also have the proof that Monsanto actually wrote the legislation
> themselves, which is not yet widely known:
>
http://naturalsociety.com/surprised-monsanto-openly-wrote-own-monsanto-protection-act/
>
> I believe that while this event is a short term victory for Monsanto, it
> will actually bolster opposition towards Monsanto due the blatant nature
> of the Monsanto Protection Act. Once enough people become aware, we will
> begin to see a massive demand from the public for their politicians to
> either STOP supporting Monsanto or get out.
>
> Thanks for your support as always and let's kick the fight against
> corruption up a notch in the coming months.
>
> Anthony Gucciardi
> Natural Society
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