Re: [Detroit-Drunken-Historical-Society] Should we charge for events?

From: Terry T.
Sent on: Sunday, February 2, 2014 1:00 PM
There have been some excellent comments on this subject, however, it would appear that the fee discussion has move beyond the original purpose of its proposal. This discussion started as a response to an event that was oversold, and that many members did not get the full impact of due to the venue. Charging a fee for that event would not have solved the problem, nor would it have left a very favorable opinion of the group and organizers in the minds of those that had less then the optimal experience.

The issue with the Dakota event was that it was a public place and that you cannot control the number of people entering the location. In addition to not solving the most recent problem, implementing a fee opens up many more potential issues.

It has already been mentioned, but if you charge a fee there is an expectation of professionalism and value for your payment. If there is a perception that those criteria were not achieved, whether you say no refunds or not, you are going to have people upset and asking for a refund.

Additionally, if you start charging fees for every event you are going to need to have an accounting of the distribution of those funds. There is the potential for IRS issues with that action, it is one thing if the venue charges a fee, if they are already a registered business it is covered under there normal operations, this group will need to establish an IRS tax status and then report as any other business would be required to do.

There are number of other negative impacts of charging a fee, no need to go into all of them.

However, if the idea is to control RSVP activities; I belong to other groups that are very good at that and they do it without a fee. They accomplished it through a very strict adherence to published RSVP rules. Such as if you RSVP and do not show more than three times they kick you out of the group, if you don't RSVP and show up at the venue they will kick you out, etc.




On Feb 2, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Susan Hass <[address removed]> wrote:

Louis - - thanks for "liking" my suggestion - it's true ....sometimes fees or dues have made me think twice about joining....especially "social" events.  And I think tracking the fall off of attendance from charging a fee would have to be watched by the organizer - but I think having a modest fee is a good idea.  I know it would make me take more seriously the event's timing and whether my ability to attend was realistic. I tend not to respond until I think about how my week is shaping up - but I think some people RSVP to events without thinking about the work that the organizers put into it.
   


On Sunday, February 2,[masked]:21 PM, Adam Presley <[address removed]> wrote:
I don't think Dues will reduce no-shows. I'd gladly pay double if half was going to charities. If any money does go to charities, you should make clear that you won't be giving receipts for tax purposes.

Two guys walk into a bar.
The third guy ducks.

On Feb 2, 2014, at 12:11 PM, CJ Ramseyer <[address removed]> wrote:

The fee would have to vary a little for the events as some would certainly be worth more or have a higher cost associated with them.  Alternatively, instead of a per event fee, charge "dues" or whatever you'd like to call it) and that goes towards the different events for the year.
On February 2,[masked]:59:56 AM Rachel Schreiber wrote:
May I suggest you make the fee non-refundable?  Too many headaches dealing with refunds.

Thanks!
Rachel


On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Daniel <[address removed]> wrote:
Money is a great motivator. A fee would for sure make me remember to attend an event. Seems too many people on Meetups that are free, and who RSVP, most time do not show up or even have the courtesy to change there RSVP to - not going. 
From: Susan Hass <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Sunday, February 2, [masked]:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Detroit-Drunken-Historical-Society] Should we charge for events?

I think a modest attendance fee is appropriate....

Susan 


On Friday, January 31,[masked]:43 AM, Brian Mulloy <[address removed]> wrote:
Hello History Lovers,
We're looking for your help. We have a vision to make Detroit Drunken Historical Society one of the most compelling ways to learn about Detroit history.
So, we are trying to constantly improve our events.
One of the questions we're considering is whether we should charge for events in order to better predict attendance and to guarantee members a spot.
Would you please let us know your thoughts?
Here is a quick, 6-question anonymous survey: 
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/RVFNBXQ
Best,
Brian Mulloy




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