Re: [wholefood-82] Oops, Ariane unintentionally let the cat out of the bag...

From: Emily
Sent on: Tuesday, September 9, 2008 3:43 PM
While I do not want to stifle anyone's speech, I would appreciate it if people can address their emails to the individuals involved and not to the entire meetup list- thanks!

Emily M. Shaules
Raw Breakthrough/Elements for Life
www.rawbreakthrough.com
www.noblelifeelements.com/chicago

 
Life is not about finding yourself, it is about creating yourself.


--- On Tue, 9/9/08, Larisa Meschi <[address removed]> wrote:
From: Larisa Meschi <[address removed]>
Subject: Re: [wholefood-82] Oops, Ariane unintentionally let the cat out of the bag...
To: [address removed]
Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 3:30 PM

I don't think I misunderstood it.  Here it is in context.  It still reads the same to me. 
 
"question, are you afraid that you will get in trouble showing this movie without a license at a public place? i was in touch with the producer about showing the movie and he said i had to rent a license for something like $150 or more and then charge $10 a person, that was the only way to do it publicly,
i think if you do it at a private home, it is no biggie.  if you found a way around that, let me know b/c i'd like to show it to folks too
thanks
ariane

Sounds to me like she comes from the assumption that everyone would do it illegally & then is trying to get in on it so she can do it too.  I know people don't like to be called down on this kind of thing - but I felt it was important to say as people get excited about stuff and while their intentions to spread the word are great -- the way they do it harms the person that created it.  It's like racism.  If you don't gently make a stand it will never end. 
 
Larisa 
 
----- Original Message ----
From: jana niebauer <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2008 3:12:12 PM
Subject: Re: [wholefood-82] Oops, Ariane unintentionally let the cat out of the bag...

I think you misunderstood her intentions

--- On Mon, 9/8/08, Larisa Meschi <[address removed]> wrote:
From: Larisa Meschi <[address removed]>
Subject: Re: [wholefood-82] Oops, Ariane unintentionally let the cat out of the bag...
To: [address removed]
Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 10:08 PM

Hey everyone....just a note -- I think the people who produce these movies are entitled to their income from them so I don't think "finding a way around it" as Ariane suggested is in any way appropriate - especially among the raw food community.  Wouldn't that be like stealing from the very people you're supposed to be honoring?  I think we ALL should all follow Danny & Kathy's lead & if you want to show these movies to people -- pay the appropriate licenses to show movies and flow power to the people who put a lot of time and expense into making these movies and running the programs that the movies are about  -- and thank you Danny & Kathy for the gift of paying the licenses to help spread the word about raw food.  Most of us would be happy to kick in an extra buck or two at the door to help with those fees as well.  It's very cool of you guys to do this for us but you already do so much for everyone. 
 
risa

 
risa


----- Original Message ----
From: Danny & Kathy Living <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Monday, September 8, 2008 9:15:00 AM
Subject: [wholefood-82] Oops, Ariane unintentionally let the cat out of the bag...

...Rest assured Kathy and I have procured a license to show the movie...

We didn't want to mention the cost of the license. That was our silent gift to you.

The cost of the license was our way of saying thank you to all our Meetup members who have been our supporters...from the 6 or 7 of you who came to our potlucks at our home in the winter months of 2007 when we were just new to raw, which grew to almost 50 people coming to our home that spring and summer for our demonstrations. Our Meetup grew from 65 people when we first became organizers to 339 in only a year!

So, to all the wonderful, thoughtful and generous people:

- who helped clean and scrub the restaurant before opened

- who come and eat our food and tell people to try the restaurant

- to the printer, who not only comes at least once a week to eat, but also prints our menus for free and distributes them

- to the customer who provided us with delicate little plates to serve sauces on

- who donated the pictures for the walls which benefit Tibetan orphans, as well as much of the other art work

- to the person who spent days in the kitchen helping document recipes for our upcoming "uncook" book

- to the couple who donated the stereo system

- to the person who donated and tends some of our flowers and plants

- to the retired school teacher / Shaman that gave the blessing and the owl painting

- to the happy soul who gave the framed picture of Kathy and I that sits over the glasses behind the register

and so many countless more gestures of kindness and goodwill that are too numerous to remember--so forgive us if it wasn't mentioned above.

The license fee for the movie was gladly paid by us. The $3 admission charge is really intended to cover the cost of renting the room at the library and the projector. Kathy and I will donate any "extra" money collected above the cost of the room / projector to the Tree of Life Foundation.

We totally support Mark Perlmutter and all those who made the film. Mark talked to us for hours last Summer before the movie was released on the phone. At one point, he was going to stay in our home when we were trying to arrange local screenings, but between his schedule and trying to open the restaurant, it never happened. We are still trying to get the Tivoli in Downers Grove to show the movie for their After Hours Film Society--we'll keep you posted if we can get that to happen. We hope to offer more screenings of this movie in the future.

In the course of getting to know Mark and what the film was about, we developed a passion for this powerful work which shows first hand the transformative powers of raw food on a person's mental, physical, and emotional bodies.

We have more information about the movie on our website here:

http://www.borrowedearthcafe.com/12.html

According to the American Diabetes Association, ..."23.6 million people in the United States, or 8% of the population, have diabetes. The total prevalence of diabetes increased 13.5% from 2005-2007."

That's incredible. While officially there is no cure, this movie clearly shows the important role that food choices makes in a person's overall health, even a person diagnosed with diabetes.

We look forward to seeing as many of you who can make it to this screening on the 21st and we hope that you tell people about the film. It's very likely someone you know has diabetes.

And again, thank you for all for supporting Kathy and I and Borrowed Earth Cafe! 

Love, Light & Smiles,

Danny & Kathy Living

"The Raw Couple"

----- Original Message ----
From: rawgirl Ariane <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Saturday, September 6, 2008 4:39:42 PM
Subject: [wholefood-82] Raw for 30 Days Movie with Danny & Kathy?

hey you guys
hope all is good,
question, are you afraid that you will get in trouble showing this movie without a license at a public place? i was in touch with the producer about showing the movie and he said i had to rent a license for something like $150 or more and then charge $10 a person, that was the only way to do it publicly,
i think if you do it at a private home, it is no biggie
if you found a way around that, let me know b/c i'd like to show it to folks too
thanks
ariane

--- On Sat, 9/6/08, Danny & Kathy Living <[address removed]> wrote:
From: Danny & Kathy Living <[address removed]>
Subject: [wholefood-82] Wanna Watch the Raw for 30 Days Movie with Danny & Kathy?
To: [address removed]
Date: Saturday, September 6, 2008, 4:12 PM

I've updated this Meetup. For more details, see the full listing:
http://wholefood.meetup.com/82/calendar/8611920/

When: September 21, 2008 1:00 PM

Where: Naperville 95th St. Library
3015 Cedar Glade Dr
Naperville, IL 60564
[masked]

Price: $3.00 per person

RSVP limit: 85 "Yes" and "Maybe" RSVPs

If the changes affect your plans to attend, please take a moment to update your RSVP. (You can RSVP "No" or "Maybe" as well as "Yes".)

You can always get in touch with me through the "Contact Organizer" link on Meetup: http://wholefood.meetup.com/82/suggestion/




--
Please Note: If you hit "REPLY", your message will be sent to everyone on this mailing list ([address removed])
This message was sent by Danny & Kathy Living ([address removed]) from Downers Grove Raw Food Meetup.
To learn more about Danny & Kathy Living, visit his/her member profile
To unsubscribe or to update your mailing list settings, click here

Meetup Support: [address removed]
632 Broadway, New York, NY 10012 USA





--
Please Note: If you hit "REPLY", your message will be sent to everyone on this mailing list ([address removed])
This message was sent by rawgirl Ariane ([address removed]) from Downers Grove Raw Food Meetup.
To learn more about rawgirl Ariane , visit his/her member profile
To unsubscribe or to update your mailing list settings, click here

Meetup Support: [address removed]
632 Broadway, New York, NY 10012 USA





--
Please Note: If you hit "REPLY", your message will be sent to everyone on this mailing list ([address removed])
This message was sent by Danny & Kathy Living ([address removed]) from Downers Grove Raw Food Meetup.
To learn more about Danny & Kathy Living, visit his/her member profile
To unsubscribe or to update your mailing list settings, click here

Meetup Support: [address removed]
632 Broadway, New York, NY 10012 USA




--
Please Note: If you hit "REPLY", your message will be sent to everyone on this mailing list ([address removed])
This message was sent by Larisa Meschi ([address removed]) from Downers Grove Raw Food Meetup.
To learn more about Larisa Meschi, visit his/her member profile
To unsubscribe or to update your mailing list settings, click here

Meetup Support: [address removed]
632 Broadway, New York, NY 10012 USA




--
Please Note: If you hit "REPLY", your message will be sent to everyone on this mailing list ([address removed])
This message was sent by jana niebauer ([address removed]) from Downers Grove Raw Food Meetup.
To learn more about jana niebauer, visit his/her member profile
To unsubscribe or to update your mailing list settings, click here

Meetup Support: [address removed]
632 Broadway, New York, NY 10012 USA




--
Please Note: If you hit "REPLY", your message will be sent to everyone on this mailing list ([address removed])
This message was sent by Larisa Meschi ([address removed]) from Downers Grove Raw Food Meetup.
To learn more about Larisa Meschi, visit his/her member profile
To unsubscribe or to update your mailing list settings, click here

Meetup Support: [address removed]
632 Broadway, New York, NY 10012 USA

Borrowed Earth Cafe'

Rated Chicagoland's Best Raw Food Restaurant & Educational Classes.

People in this
Meetup are also in:

Log in

Not registered with us yet?

Sign up

Meetup members, Log in

or
By clicking the "Sign up using Facebook" or "Sign up" buttons above, you agree to Meetup's Terms of Service