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Re: [ruby-81] Dreamweaver CS3 and Rails...

From: user 5.
Sent on: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 10:35 AM
The other significant problem, at least when I was using it back in
the day, is that it has a bunch of features for creating HTML snippets
that are then updated sitewide by batch editing every single file.
Since it expects the full content of every HTML page to be in every
file, it has no mechanism for including HTML from other files (much
less from Ruby). The net result is a cut-n-paste nightmare that is
difficult to maintain even if you're using Dreamweaver.

I did do some hackery with Contribute, wherein I wrote an Apache
module to insert the garbage it requires when responding to Contribute
GETs, and then stripping the garbage back out on Contribute POSTs;
resulting in a relatively clean (if you can call the generated markup
clean) content-only file. The same might be possible if you can force
Dreamweaver to use WebDAV... but then you run into Dreamweaver's
completely idiotic file management nightmare where some files are
local, some are remote, and oftentimes you can't tell the difference.

Just don't use Dreamweaver.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Sam Goldstein<[addres­s removed]> wrote:
> I agree. ��In my experience Dreamweaver tends to create HTML and CSS that is
> difficult to edit and work with (except from within Dreamweaver.) ��I haven't
> worked with Dreamweaver for a few years (so it may have improved since then)
> but as a developer I'd be very wary of using Dreamweaver for anything except
> creating mockups.
> ~sam
> http://drasticcod...­
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> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Alex Wayne <[address removed]> wrote:
>>
>> I have had the wonderful pleasure of inserting erb tags into Dreamweaver
>> created markup, and I must say... the experience was unpleasant.
>> Dreamweaver doesn't produce markup that is very easy to sort through. ��So
>> figuring out exactly were to stick those erb tags and what they should be in
>> anything bigger than a small app will be hard. ��Not impossible, but hard.
>> ��However if this person is really good at web standard, proper use of CSS,
>> etc, then they will likely produce pages that are easier to work with and
>> better suited to a web application.
>> In general, I find the best way to create HTML and CSS for a web
>> application is to hand tailor it from scratch to leverage the maximum
>> flexibility that a web application needs.
>> -Alex
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Jon Seidel <[address removed]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm working with a designer who uses Dreamweaver CS3 to develop a simple
>>> courseware testing app with Rails as the framework.
>>>
>>> She's heard rumors that there are some aspects of DW that don't work well
>>> with Rails... has anyone heard of this and, if so, what do we do to avoid
>>> the problems?
>>>
>>> thanks much....jon
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