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Re: [ruby-81] Passing along some info - On Feb 16, 2008, at 12:16 AM, Donn Gurule wrote: > Are you going to arrange something to get your projector for next > week? It is currently locked up at the office. I will be there > next week, but may be traveling soon. I would like to get William S. Feb 16, 2008 12:23 AM
Re: [ruby-81] Passing along some info - Will, Are you going to arrange something to get your projector for next week? It is currently locked up at the office. I will be there next week, but may be traveling soon. I would like to get it back Donn G. Feb 16, 2008 12:15 AM
Passing along some info - Passing this along... A new RoR resource website, www.buildingwebapps.com is sponsoring a 2-day hands on RailsQuickStart seminar, geared for new RoR programmers in San Francisco, Feb 20-21, William S. Feb 15, 2008 11:07 PM
Re: [ruby-81] Now here's a rails machine with no performance issues! - Preview not available Richard B. Feb 9, 2008 10:40 AM
Now here's a rails machine with no performance issues! - Jon S. Feb 9, 2008 8:03 AM
February East Bay Ruby Meetup - Chris Wanstrath will be presenting distributed source configuration management using Git and GitHost. For more details, see the full listing: http://ruby.meetup.com/81/cale­ndar/7131841/ William S. Feb 2, 2008 9:01 PM
Re: [ruby-81] We need a presenter! - Sorry, guys, that was meant for William. Elliott B. Feb 2, 2008 6:01 PM
Re: [ruby-81] We need a presenter! - William, I'm contemplating giving a presentation, but I want to be sure I'll have time Elliott B. Feb 2, 2008 6:00 PM
We need a presenter! - We need a presenter for the February meetup! If you have something you would like to show off or you would like to talk about something you just learned and think is fairly interesting, PLEASE contact me. (Some of you offered to present, William S. Feb 2, 2008 5:18 PM
Re: [ruby-81] RESTful services that always work - What you call 'giving up', I prefer to think of as 'battle selection'. Elliott B. Jan 31, 2008 11:45 PM
Re: [ruby-81] RESTful services that always work - >The key to my conversion was for me to have rails generate as much >of my application as possible -- meaning, of course, scaffolding. >When creating scaffolding, just be sure to use the singular form of >the noun of the model your generating and le Loqi Jan 31, 2008 9:23 PM
RE: Apache/Mongrel configuration - Jon S. Jan 31, 2008 1:22 PM
Re: [ruby-81] RESTful services that always work - On Jan 31, 2008, at 11:24 AM, Sam Pierson wrote: > Perhaps we could limit the amount of recruiterspam we get by putting > a note in the "About Us" section explaining that the mailing list is > not very tolerant of unsolicited recruitment, and d William S. Jan 31, 2008 12:40 PM
Re: [ruby-81] RESTful services that always work - On Jan 31, 2008, at 8:39 AM, Georgina wrote: > I'm a recruiter in the software marketplace We have created a message board for job solicitation and I would appreciate it if you would that instead. We are keeping this mail list purely William S. Jan 31, 2008 12:38 PM
Re: [ruby-81] RESTful services that always work - sorry guys. i shouldn't have copied everyone on my reply. i was being lazy. i did call her afterwords. maybe we should require that you attend a meeting before you get approved to send or even join the mailing list? On Jan 31, 2008, at 12 james a. Jan 31, 2008 12:14 PM
RE: [ruby-81] RESTful services that always work - However, please do remember that James Ash at ELC Technology runs the company that gave us the presentation last month...jon -- -----Original Message----- From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Sam Pierson Sent: Thur Jon S. Jan 31, 2008 12:05 PM
RE: [ruby-81] RESTful services that always work - We can also report them as delivering "inappropriate content" which may get them off the system? ...jon -- -----Original Message----- From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Sam Pierson Sent: Thursday, January 31, Jon S. Jan 31, 2008 12:05 PM
Re: [ruby-81] RESTful services that always work - Preview not available Sam P. Jan 31, 2008 11:24 AM
Re: [ruby-81] RESTful services that always work - Loqi, Confucius say: "One may spare one's back by not digging holes that need n Elliott B. Jan 31, 2008 11:16 AM
Re: [ruby-81] RESTful services that always work - This is also serious, but totally off topic: Anyone who responds in a favorable way to either "Georgina" or "james ash", know that by doing so, you become a supporter of spam, and thus part of the problem. Now back to the topic of this thread: Loqi Jan 31, 2008 10:22 AM
Re: [ruby-81] RESTful services that always work - Preview not available james a. Jan 31, 2008 8:44 AM
Re: [ruby-81] RESTful services that always work - Hi Loqi, Another option might be to make a generator to automate the creation of your routes. I've been avoiding map.resource because of the plural/singular problem so I make my own routes: map.with_options(:controller => 'systems') do |s stevenwulf Jan 31, 2008 7:32 AM
RESTful services that always work - I'm beginning to get more comfortable with the idea of making a plugin for pluralization-independent Restful services. I'm just too green with Rails to do it alone. I don't know how. I'm pretty sure everything the scaffold generator is producing is Loqi Jan 31, 2008 12:56 AM
Re: [ruby-81] TextMate Ctrl-h and multiple Rails versions - On Jan 30, 2008, at 11:43 AM, Eric Lin wrote: > Has anyone figured out a way to get Ctrl-H popup documentation > window to appear in TextMate when multiple versions of Rails are > installed? When there are multiple versions of Rails, TextMate William S. Jan 30, 2008 2:13 PM
Re: [ruby-81] Reflecting on Associations - The Component1.reflections hash is probably what you want. - Dan On Jan 30,[masked]:09 AM, Mike Rood < [address removed] > wrote: Daniel O. Jan 30, 2008 11:15 AM
Re: [ruby-81] Apache/Mongrel configuration - On 1/30/08, Jon Seidel < [address removed] > wrote: Joel Parker H. Jan 30, 2008 10:07 AM
Apache/Mongrel configuration - Jon S. Jan 30, 2008 9:41 AM
Re: Re: [ruby-81] I hate pluralization! - Jon S. Jan 30, 2008 9:24 AM
Re: [ruby-81] I hate pluralization! - FWIW, The Rails Way has a very nicely done explanation of the way that the routing is done. I recommend the book quite highly for illuminating the corners of Rails that AWDwR leaves murky. -r -- http://www.cfcl.com/rdm Rich Morin htt Rich M. Jan 30, 2008 12:09 AM
Re: [ruby-81] I hate pluralization! - On Jan 29,[masked]:43 PM, Loqi wrote: > Everything was back on track until I started going RESTful. Rails > RESTful routing appears to rely on each identifier having two > distinct spellings for singular and plural forms in order to > Chad W. Jan 29, 2008 10:35 PM
Re: [ruby-81] I hate pluralization! - I'm not a big fan of the pluralization and even less of CamelCaps (I always use underscores, if possible. That said, Rails IS opinionated software, so I live with it. -r -- http://www.cfcl.com/rdm Rich Morin http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/re Rich M. Jan 29, 2008 6:09 PM
Re: [ruby-81] I hate pluralization! - >> Why not build a plugin to handle your singular routing; perhaps >>with other members of this community? You could then submit it as >>a patch or add to the Rails Wiki to let others know about the >>plugin. > >Just what I was thinking... I' Loqi Jan 29, 2008 3:53 PM
Re: [ruby-81] I hate pluralization! - On Jan 29, 2008, at 12:59 PM, Daniel O'Shea wrote: > Why not build a plugin to handle your singular routing; perhaps > with other members of this community? You could then submit it as a > patch or add to the Rails Wiki to let others know William S. Jan 29, 2008 1:04 PM
Re: [ruby-81] I hate pluralization! - Hi Loqi, Why not build a plugin to handle your singular routing; perhaps with other members of this community? You could then submit it as a patch or add to the Rails Wiki to let others know about the plugin. Ju Daniel O. Jan 29, 2008 12:58 PM
Re: [ruby-81] I hate pluralization! - This pluralization thing is hardly a minor annoyance for me. My code won't run now, because I'm trying to go RESTful. When I first started using Rails, I just went along with the pluralization regime because I figured it was thought through by pe Loqi Jan 29, 2008 12:42 PM
Re: [ruby-81] I hate pluralization! - On Jan 28, 2008, at 11:27 PM, Loqi wrote: William S. Jan 29, 2008 9:43 AM
Re: [ruby-81] I hate pluralization! - Hi, I totally agree. Pluralization in Rails should be abolished. I think that was one of their worst design decisions they've made. I've seen controllers swing both ways (plural and singular), and I think it's pretty a David B. Jan 29, 2008 9:03 AM
Re: [ruby-81] I hate pluralization! - Whoops -- sorry. I meant to reply only to Ian. On 1/29/08 8:53 AM, "Gary" wrote: > Hey Ian > > How the heck are ya? Long time no hear. Did you get my message that Naf and > I delivered a baby boy? What's up with you these day Gary Jan 29, 2008 8:54 AM
Re: [ruby-81] I hate pluralization! - Hey Ian How the heck are ya? Long time no hear. Did you get my message that Naf and I delivered a baby boy? What's up with you these days? -gary On 1/29/08 8:51 AM, "Ian Smith-Heisters" wrote: > On 1/28/08, Loqi Gary Jan 29, 2008 8:52 AM
Re: [ruby-81] I hate pluralization! - On 1/28/08, Loqi wrote: > Natural languages are for artfully conveying meaning among humans. > Programming languages are for precisely controlling logic machines. I actually agree with all your points, except that it doesn't bother user 5. Jan 29, 2008 8:49 AM
I hate pluralization! - I've tried -- I've really tried -- to see the virtue in having my code pluralize and unpluralize and re-re-pluralize my identifiers. I just can't seem to enjoy that sort of thing. Every time I generate a new Rails project, I promptly put this code Loqi Jan 28, 2008 11:27 PM
Re: [ruby-81] Eager Loading and an Alternative? - On Jan 11, 2008, at 6:35 PM, Billy wrote: William S. Jan 11, 2008 7:29 PM
Eager Loading and an Alternative? - So I found a nice little feature of eager loading, and I'm wondering if any of you have found a way to accomplish it when not using eager loading. Here is my scenario: model A has_many B, B has an id field on it, and there are 5 b's in Billy Jan 11, 2008 6:35 PM
Re: [ruby-81] Testing a free service... - Preview not available Chad W. Dec 26, 2007 10:07 AM
Testing a free service... - Jon S. Dec 25, 2007 9:32 AM
Things a newcomer to ruby should know... - Jon S. Dec 25, 2007 6:42 AM
Event details changed: January Ruby Meetup - Sorry for the multiple emails, the last email was missed this link. - Will I've updated this event. For more details, see the full listing: http://ruby.meetup.com/81/cale­ndar/6936537/ William S. Dec 20, 2007 2:53 PM
Event details changed: January Ruby Meetup - We have the wonderful opportunity to have ELC Tech coming over and presenting their new OpenSocial container for Ruby on Rails. Check out the event to learn more! - Will When: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 at 6:00 PM Where: Woz Lou William S. Dec 20, 2007 2:32 PM
Re: [ruby-81] Materials from last night's presentation on AWS - Preview not available james a. Dec 19, 2007 4:30 PM
Materials from last night's presentation on AWS - Greetings, Code, slides, and list of resources are available at http:// www.barbarycodes.com/#stuff. Hope you find it useful. Cheers, Tim Tim J. Dec 19, 2007 3:18 PM
rubyforge and gem problems installing rails 2.0... - I just? posted ??a work-around for those of you having problems updating to darryl w. Dec 8, 2007 11:32 AM
Re: [ruby-81] Re: [ruby-81] - On 12/5/07 10:41 AM, Sumit wrote: > There's a requirement to bring cookies or brownies. > > Baklava if you're feeling ambitious. Oh, you're bad. ;] He meant "beer" and "soda". ;] --j > On Dec 5,[masked]:28 AM, jason Winn Jim M. Dec 5, 2007 10:48 AM
Duplicate meetup removed - If you have already rsvped for the December meetup, it was a duplicate entry. I have removed it and added a new one. Please RSVP again. The December meetup will occur as planned. Sorry for the inconvenience, - Will Sobel William S. Nov 25, 2007 5:07 PM
Event details changed: The East Bay Ruby December Meetup - Hello All, The December Meetup will feature Tim Jones speaking on how to use various services like S3 and EC2 as the foundation of large scale applications. For more details, see the full listing: William S. Nov 25, 2007 4:52 PM
Re: [ruby-81] Supporting OpenID - and if you want openid enabled restful authentication, there's a plugin for that too! It's just restful authentication with an openid alternative login. On Nov 13,[masked]:11 PM, Raphael Karunditu wrote: > Loqi, > > The res user 3. Nov 14, 2007 11:51 AM
Re: [ruby-81] I guess I should have known this - On Nov 13,[masked]:07 PM, William Sobel wrote: > The only > immutable objects in Ruby are numbers. You can't change a 1 into a 2 > nor would you want to! All the immediate values are immutable, so symbols, true, false, and nil ar Wayne V. Nov 13, 2007 9:45 PM
Re: [ruby-81] I guess I should have known this - On Nov 13, 2007, at 8:18 PM, Chick Markley wrote: > Mabye this just surprises me from my Java background with it's > immutable strings, but it caused a problem for me in a project that > I am working on and it was a little hard to find. Answer William S. Nov 13, 2007 9:07 PM
Re: [ruby-81] Supporting OpenID - Loqi, The restful_authentication plugin is probably the best way to go in terms of plugins for authentication. RESTful web services are going to be the defacto way to create controllers, actions and routes for Rails 2.0 and is introduced and enco Raphael K. Nov 13, 2007 9:02 PM
[ruby-81] Supporting OpenID - Thanks for the advice about starting off simple, David. And for the heads-up on Goldberg, I'll eventually get to that one. For now, I've decided to jump into OpenID with both feet - Thanks Jon, Ed, and Sam. The time pressure's not too heavy to lear Loqi Nov 13, 2007 5:29 PM
Re: [ruby-81] We have a new location! - This is awesome news :) On Nov 13,[masked]:07 AM, William Sobel wrote: > > All, > > As of the December meetup the EB Ruby meetup has a new venue provided by UC > Berkeley in the spacious Woz Lounge at Soda Hall. This will give Billy Nov 13, 2007 4:30 PM
Event details changed: The East Bay Ruby November Meetup - I've updated this event. For more details, see the full listing: http://ruby.meetup.com/81/cale­ndar/6563604/ When: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 at 6:00 PM Where: Lightbeam Syste William S. Nov 13, 2007 11:22 AM
We have a new location! - All, As of the December meetup the EB Ruby meetup has a new venue provided by UC Berkeley in the spacious Woz Lounge at Soda Hall. This will give us a real projection screen and plenty of room; we've hit the big time! - Will So William S. Nov 13, 2007 11:07 AM
Re: [ruby-81] User authentication technique - Preview not available Sam P. Nov 5, 2007 1:37 PM
Re: [ruby-81] User authentication technique - Good luck on getting users to actually do public key encryption. As far as I can tell, unless an app builds it in behind the scene, only very technical people ever generate a key pair and know what to do with the parts. Justin Gehtland gave a Ed A. Nov 5, 2007 11:43 AM
Re: Re: [ruby-81] User authentication technique - Jon S. Nov 5, 2007 5:52 AM
Re: [ruby-81] User authentication technique - East Bay Ruby people: I hope this is the right place for this. Please let me know if it's improper. So I'm tackling my first Rails application. It will have the usual list of user accounts, but I'm challenged by the user authentication scheme. I Loqi Nov 4, 2007 6:59 PM
Job Postings - The message board is now active once again. Please post all job related offers and desires to this board. That way we can keep the mailing list for geek talk. Thanks, - Will William S. Oct 25, 2007 6:35 PM
Re: [ruby-81] Apologies for the mis-post - On Oct 25, 2007, at 11:42 AM, Richard Bodo wrote: William S. Oct 25, 2007 2:10 PM
Apologies for the mis-post - My sincere apologies to the group for my mistaken post of a personal message to this list. You guys might have been in my situation before. I'm just trying to fire off replies to job-related mail as efficiently as possible, and miscalculated. Ag Richard B. Oct 25, 2007 11:42 AM
Re: [ruby-81] Ruby on Rails Position- Contract- Offsite! - I'm interested, Nick. I'm relatively new to rails but an experienced developer. I would be happy to bid on the project or work at a very reasonable hourly rate. The short version of my resume is attached. -Rich On 10/25/07, Nick Richard B. Oct 25, 2007 11:27 AM
Ruby on Rails Position- Contract- Offsite! - Nick Oct 25, 2007 11:04 AM
Re: [ruby-81] FrontEnd Devloper - I'll note that the founders of RGA Associates, [address removed] and [address removed], might not appreciate Nick garnering the ill will of the East Bay Ruby developer community. Teach a man to fish ... --j On 10/16/07, Jason Jim M. Oct 16, 2007 8:06 PM
Re: [ruby-81] FrontEnd Devloper - I mean, he could at least spell developer correctly.. Maybe i should submit a resume with mispelled werds al ovor it. spam. On 10/16/07, Dean < Jason Oct 16, 2007 3:30 PM
Re: [ruby-81] Please help by checking out our new Rails app - Looks nice... You owe your designer a drink, On 10/16/07, Andy Chen < [address removed] > wrote Jason Oct 16, 2007 3:29 PM
Re: [ruby-81] FrontEnd Devloper - Well sometimes I will let it go if the job posting is a Ruby/Rails-related job. However, once we allow recruiters who need any kind of skill to post, we'll soon start seeing J2EE and ASP .NET type postings and that's when I'll stop attending the East user 3. Oct 16, 2007 3:27 PM
Re: [ruby-81] FrontEnd Devloper - That, or he will pass my resume to everyone this fool has on his Linkedin account and ill be getting spam for the next year from refrigerator repair men in Nebraska asking if I'm interested in relocating.. There are plenty of job sites, and even Jason Oct 16, 2007 3:26 PM
Re: [ruby-81] FrontEnd Devloper - Maybe we can all reply to Nick's posting and say we're all highly interested, submit a stack of resumes, etc, just to generate more noise than signal. It's sorta the same way some deal with the 401 Nigerian email scams. If recruiters realize they gen user 3. Oct 16, 2007 3:09 PM
Re: [ruby-81] FrontEnd Devloper - When did this become a job posting list? Isn't is safe to assume that people looking for a job would be reading craigslist? It seems like it is becoming more and more common for companies and recruiters to post job req's here and Jason Oct 16, 2007 2:58 PM
Re: [ruby-81] FrontEnd Devloper - Is it possible to filter headhunters as spam somehow? I get enough of these in my inbox on a daily basis. On 10/16/07, Nick wrote: > > > > Is there anyone interested in a front end web development position with a > fast grow user 3. Oct 16, 2007 2:23 PM
FrontEnd Devloper - Nick Oct 16, 2007 2:04 PM
Re: [ruby-81] Please help by checking out our new Rails app - I do like the CSS. Very clean On 10/16/07, Daniel O'Shea wrote: > We didn't modify an existing CMS's. Hand rolled Ruby/ Rails with a couple > plugins. > > -Dan > > > On 10/16/07, Dean wrote: > > It l user 3. Oct 16, 2007 1:54 PM
Re: [ruby-81] Please help by checking out our new Rails app - Very nice Dan.. I'll play with it a bit more when I get home.. once again, nice... Keli 2007/10/16, Daniel O'Shea < [address removed] >: Keli K. Oct 16, 2007 1:45 PM
Re: [ruby-81] Please help by checking out our new Rails app - We didn't modify an existing CMS's. Hand rolled Ruby/ Rails with a couple plugins. -Dan On 10/16/07, Dean < [address removed] Daniel O. Oct 16, 2007 1:43 PM
Re: [ruby-81] Please help by checking out our new Rails app - It looks sorta CMS-y. Did you guys roll your own CMS for this? Or was it a heavily modified mephisto/radiantcms? On 10/16/07, Andy Chen wrote: > > > > Very cool website! > > > > ________________________________ > user 3. Oct 16, 2007 12:57 PM
Please help by checking out our new Rails app - Hello everyone! I came to my first meetup in June having worked with Ruby and Rails for two weeks. Yesterday, our rails app went into public beta. The app is designed to create and host small business websites. Bein Daniel O. Oct 16, 2007 12:21 PM
Re: [ruby-81] Please check out the change of venu - You are all quite welcome. Really. It was a pleasure and a privilege. If we ever get more space, Paul W. Oct 9, 2007 9:13 PM
Re: [ruby-81] Please check out the change of venu - If only BART let me on with my bike at 5:30 :P Bastards! On 10/9/07, Sumit < [address removed] > wrote: Billy Oct 9, 2007 9:12 PM
Re: [ruby-81] Please check out the change of venu - Aww what kind of guilt is that! If im able to make it I can fit 4... or if anyone wants to reminisce on your fraternity days, 13. =] On 10/9/07, T user 3. Oct 9, 2007 9:09 PM
Re: [ruby-81] Please check out the change of venu - I'm sure some of us with cars would give people a lift back to BART when it's over. Tim On Oct 9, 2007, at 9:01 PM, Sumit wrote: > You can take the BART to Macarthur and then the Hollis/Amtrak emery- > go-round to i think its the 55th street Tim J. Oct 9, 2007 9:04 PM
Re: [ruby-81] Please check out the change of venu - You can take the BART to Macarthur and then the Hollis/Amtrak emery-go-round to i think its the 55th street stop.. but I think it stops service at 8 or 9. On 10/9/07, user 3. Oct 9, 2007 9:01 PM
Re: [ruby-81] Please check out the change of venu - That is a major bummer to us SF guys coming across on BART. It will be much harder for me to make the new venue. Incase I don't see ya'll for a while, I just wanted to say thanks for hosting all of the great meetups at Dabble, and thanks to Don fo Billy Oct 9, 2007 8:46 PM
Please check out the change of venu - If you didn't receive the the updated event details, we've changed the venue to Lightbeam Systems over in Emeryville thanks to the generosity Don Gurule. The Berkeley location was rented and we can no longer meet there, so I apologize if this is inc William S. Oct 9, 2007 8:20 PM
Re: [ruby-81] What's up with ++? - I haven't seen the long explanation, but here's Matz's short version: < http://web.archive.org/web/200­30901065005/www.ruby-talk.org/­blade/2710 > Carina C. Z. Oct 3, 2007 1:39 PM
Re: [ruby-81] Parsing bad characters out of a user submitted chunk of text - Preview not available Jim M. Oct 3, 2007 12:16 PM
Re: [ruby-81] What's up with ++? - There is a really lengthy article out there that goes in to detail about the matter, but unfortunately I didn't bookmark it and I don't know if its possible to search for literal "++" on Google without it being interpreted as a boolean e Billy Oct 3, 2007 11:39 AM
Re: [ruby-81] What's up with ++? - Matz says that he didn't support ++ (or --) in Ruby because he couldn't cleanly fit it into his model of how OO worked. > > irb(main):017:0> a++ > > irb(main):018:0* a > > => 2 The * on line 18 shows that irb hasn't seen the end of the statement, Wayne V. Oct 3, 2007 11:31 AM
Re: [ruby-81] What's up with ++? - Ruby does not support ++ or -- .. it has something to do with the way that '+' is parsed On 10/3/07, Ed Allen < [address removed] Billy Oct 3, 2007 10:46 AM
What's up with ++? - Here's something I don't understand, that was tripping me up and generating a bug: irb(main) Ed A. Oct 3, 2007 10:43 AM
Re: [ruby-81] Parsing bad characters out of a user submitted chunk of text - I usually strip out or convert all of those fancy characters --- it just turns in to a nightmare when you want to send that data to some other source that doesn't support them .. like pricegrabber or commission junction. ? becomes O, ? becomes 'ss Billy Oct 3, 2007 9:58 AM
Re: [ruby-81] Parsing bad characters out of a user submitted chunk of text - Yeah if you want to quickly clean your unicode of any non-standard ascii, you can do the following: "unicode text".gsub(/[^\x21-\x7e]/, '') The normal ascii are between 0x21 to 0x7E. Might be useful to consult a unicode to ascii table here. The user 3. Oct 3, 2007 12:27 AM

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