Thanks Andrew.  So the nuts would be wet and soft, in other words,
totally different than how we think of nuts?  Wouldn't they go bad
that same day like that?    Or do you let them dry ?
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On Sun, 8/14/16, Andrew <[address removed]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [East-Bay-L-E-A-P-S]­ Getting frustrated, anyone have ideas?
 To: [address removed]
 Date: Sunday, August 14, 2016, 2:43 PM
 
 Sure. Putting seeds or grains or
 nuts in water overnight releases their inherent nutrients
 that are otherwise "bound up" and not absorbable
 by the body. Ancient cultures understood this and practiced
 soaking and sprouting. Soaking is putting them in water, for
 8 hours or so. Sprouting is putting them in water for 8
 hours or so, then letting them sit in a jar and they will
 start to grow roots, or sprouts, naturally - becasue they
 are turning into a plant, and are therefore edible. Do this
 with every nut, seed, and grain you eat - although for now
 I'd avoid grains til your tummy heals a bit. Even grains
 that are sprouted apparently can be unkind to a digestive
 system that needs to heal from abx, wrongly cooked and
 processed grains, GMO's, etc that have been being
 digested for a lifetime. 
 
 Soaking: put them in a jar in water on your counter
 for 8 hours then do whatever you want with them.
 Sprouting: Soak then allow to sit without water for
 another day. They'll have sprouts!
 
 Which is the best method? Depends on who you are.
 I'm thin and a bit weak so I avoid sprouts becasue
 they're very cleansing. So soaking is enough for me.
 Someone heartier who is more robust would have no prob with
 sprouts!
 
 On Sun, Aug 14, 2016
 at 2:33 PM, jodie appell <[address removed]>
 wrote:
 Andrew, can you explain  the
 procedure for sprouting grains?
 
 And nuts?  Do you mean you put walnuts in water? 
 wouldn't they
 
 be awful, soft and sort of rotten?  Would be so helpful if
 you could
 
 actually explain the procedures. People talk about sprouting
 a lot
 
 but never explain it.  Thanks so much in advance.
 
 Jodie
 
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 On Sun, 8/14/16, Andrew <East-Bay-L-E-A-P­-S-list@
 meetup.com> wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [East-Bay-L-E-A-P-S]­ Getting frustrated,
 anyone have ideas?
 
  To: East-Bay-L-E-A-P-S-l­ist@
 meetup.com
 
  Date: Sunday, August 14, 2016, 2:22 PM
 
 
 
  Most likely
 
  your gut/immune system is compromised. This is why the
 
  problems are here in the first place -and one of the
 reasons
 
  the gut is compromised is because we've eaten grains
 
  without soaking or sprouting them our whole lives, so
 they
 
  tumble around like rocks in our stomach unfortunately.
 For
 
  awhile, if you eat bone broth, meat, chicken, sauerkraut,
 
  green veggies, and stay away from grains - you should see
 a
 
  gradual reduction in symptoms over time. Also, nuts and
 
  seeds need to be sprouted or soaked. Otherwise they beat
 up
 
  the stomach too. Diet is a huge part; wish I'd known
 it
 
  earlier. Good luck!
 
 
 
  On Sat, Aug 13, 2016
 
  at 8:27 PM, Angela Arthur <East-Bay-L-E-A-P­-S-list@
 meetup.com>
 
  wrote:
 
 
 
  Dear Christine, 
 
  You need to find the right doctor. Find a doctor
 
  who treats "empirically". That's the code
 word
 
  for a doctor who will treat based in symptoms and
 
  doesn't need to see a positive Lyme test. The other
 
  thing to ask or find out is whether or not that doctor
 sees
 
  Lyme as a " clinical" diagnosis.
 
  I'm not up on who is pracitcing in the Bay
 
  Area right now, but others on this list can probably
 point
 
  you in their direction.
 
  Don't discount naturopaths and nurse
 
  practitioners. They are some extremely good ones who are
 
  doing good work w Lyme.
 
  The two practitoners I know of off the top of my
 
  head that might be worth looking into are Mischa Greider
 in
 
  SF (I don't know if he needs a + lyme test or not),
 and
 
  Jake Wardwell, who practices at a couple different places
 in
 
  the city.
 
  Forget about it being covered by
 
  insurance. Depending on your plan, You might be able to
 get
 
  partial reimbursement.
 
 
 
  I'm so sorry and keep us
 
  posted-!
 
  PS: there are 2 other things that
 
  might coukd be causing your
 
  symptoms:
 
  --heavy metals from dental  work.
 
  Do you have a lot of dental work? Sometimes the combo of
 
  metals and positioning in a persons head can even cause a
 
  "battery" effect where they're basically
 being
 
  zapped.
 
  --Mold exposure + some other
 
  compounding factor (Lyme, dental,
 
  etc).
 
  Don't give up!! And if
 
  you're feeling disxouraged, go watch Under Our Skin.
 
  You're not alone....
 
  On Saturday, August 13, 2016, Joe
 <East-Bay-L-E-A-P­-S-list@
 
  meetup.com> wrote:
 
  Hi Christine,
 
  We all on this list sympathize intensely with
 
  you. You are not alone.
 
  I believe I have lyme & babesia, though like
 
  you, I have tested negative for nearly everything (lyme
 
  western blot, spinal tap, mri, emg, etc.). I tested low
 for
 
  Vit D3, (which Im told most adults over 35 are low) &
 
  thats about it. One test that I highly recommend is the
 
  CD-57. Ive heard different ranges, my doc says anything
 
  below 250 signifies lyme disease, mine was 48. Mainstream
 
  medicine says anything below 60 is significant but really
 
  they ignore the CD-57. Basically CD-57 is a small piece
 of
 
  our immune system. If its low, it signifies that portion
 of
 
  our immune system is tired out from fighting an unknown
 
  infection.  If you test positive, at least you know you
 are
 
  fighting an infection & have been for
 
  sometime.
 
  Regarding your diet, very good, my recommendation
 
  is to cut out the potatoes & rice. :(
 
  Good luck & God Bless, stay tuned with us
 
  & keep us posted.
 
  On Aug 13, 2016, at
 
  1:02 PM, Christine <East-Bay-L-E-A-P­-S-list@meetu p.com>
 
  wrote:
 
  Hello
 
  Everyone, 
 
 
 
  Sorry for the long email, I'm really
 
  struggling right now and looking to see if anyone has had
 
  similar experiences and if you were able to find a
 solution.
 
   
 
  I've been trying to get a diagnosis for 4
 
  years now and have come up negative on EVERYTHING.
 I've
 
  been told by several doctors that they suspect I have
 Lyme
 
  or MS but all tests come back perfect. I've had tons
 of
 
  blood work, multiple MRI, spinal tap and EMG. I've
 kept
 
  my symptoms in check with a healthy diet, light exercise
 and
 
  herbal medicine, but lately I've been getting worse
 and
 
  my doctors have told me there is nothing they can do.
 They
 
  just give me prescription strength Ibuprofen and tell me
 to
 
  keep working as long as possible and do more physical
 
  therapy (I can probably teach physical therapy myself at
 
  this point).
 
  All the symptoms are on my right side; pain,
 
  weakness, tight muscles, my foot gets cold and blue,
 brain
 
  zaps, touching becomes painful, fatigue, etc. I'm
 sure
 
  you get the picture. In addition I have extremely quick
 
  reflexes according to my doctors. Exercise is difficult
 for
 
  me as it triggers pain attacks 90% of the time so I have
 to
 
  be VERY careful with what I do. I use to dance, hike camp
 
  and go horseback riding so this has been the most
 difficult
 
  thing for me to adjust to. I'm also in the 2% of the
 
  population that has a 'paradoxical' reaction to
 
  medications meaning I can't tolerate a majority of
 
  medicines which makes it hard to treat me with western
 
  medicine.
 
  I don't remember ever being bit by a tick or
 
  seeing any sign of being bit by a tick. I have been bit
 by
 
  lots of mosquitoes as they seem to think I am delicious.
 I
 
  swell up very badly from mosquito bites so I know when
 one
 
  has bit me.
 
  I do 15-30 min physical therapy a day as
 
  tolerated, take a daily hour walk as tolerated, meditate,
 
  qui gong, and I'm still working (an accomplishment in
 
  itself). I even went vegan for several months but it
 
  didn't seem to make a difference for me so I went
 back
 
  to eating small amounts of meat (<4 oz per day). I
 
  basically eat paleo + rice and potatoes. I get worse if I
 
  eat sugar, gluten or processed foods so I avoid them like
 
  the plague. I take ibuprofen, voltaren gel, effexor and
 
  amitriptyline for pain and muscle tension. I use
 essential
 
  oils and herbs to help me sleep, reduce pain and reduce
 
  stress. 
 
  Has anyone had an experience like this? Did you
 
  ever get a diagnosis? What, if anything, helped you?
 I'm
 
  also looking for recommendations for doctors that may be
 
  helpful or tests that I should look into. I've tried
 
  everything I can think of and am out of options at this
 
  point. Any advice is appreciated.
 
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