Saturday Conversations

TOPIC:

Dreams, and their philosophical implications.

One night, Zhuangzi dreamed that he was a carefree butterfly, flying happily. After he woke up, he wondered how he could determine whether he was Zhuangzi who had just finished dreaming he was a butterfly, or a butterfly who had just started dreaming he was Zhuangzi. This was a metaphor for what he referred to as a "great dream".

Philosophers have been fascinated by dreams for quite some time. The above story is itself from 369 BCE. The fact that we dream stirs up a great many fascinating questions about the nature of reality, experience, psychology, and skepticism to name a few.

Questions:
1. Do we experience dreams with the same, or different, mental machinery as what we experience waking life with?
2. Should the fact that we dream lead us to question our own senses? How much of such skepticism would be considered reasonable?
3. Can the structure of dreams tell us anything about the structure of conscious experiences?
4. Doesn't the existence of lucid dreaming (the ability to recognize and control a dream) imply the possibly of consensual reality (the idea that we can control our own experiences)?

Location and Price:

Upstairs there are many tables and chairs where people can gather and eat. If it's a nice day out, we may sit out on the covered balcony. As always there is a suggested, but by no means necessary, $2 donation which goes towards helping cover the costs of the meetup.

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  • Leslie

    I truly enjoyed the meeting!! Thank you all for your wonderful inputs.

    September 30, 2013

  • Elder N.

    Leslie, hope you enjoyed the sat meeting. I thought you had some good questions. Hope some of the answers made sense. LOL

    September 30, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Hi, I really enjoyed the discussion! Look forward to next month.

    1 · September 29, 2013

  • Leslie

    Great....this is my first time meeting everyone!!

    September 28, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    I'm here, an hour early.

    September 28, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Looking forward to a meet

    September 28, 2013

  • Chaitanya

    My bad. Thought it is for tomorrow...cant do it today as my car is broken...cya guys later...

    September 28, 2013

  • Tom L.

    Looking forward to more good conversation. If last month is any indicator when talk was still going strong after 3.5 hours when I had to leave.

    September 27, 2013

  • Gigi

    I can't go this time either, unfortunately, because I have an interview to go to. I will try to go to the next one. I am interested in learning more about this group and meeting the people in it. I am sorry I had to change my status on this.

    September 27, 2013

  • Elder N.

    I am going to try to attend this one. I will know better as sat approaches. Looking forward to seeing the group again.

    September 26, 2013

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