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Re: Re: [philosophy-156] Tonight's philosophy topic: Freedom and Toleration

From: Shaun D.
Sent on: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:29 AM
As has been implied elsewhere in this thread, it seems to me that age
isn't necessarily a very good metric for this purpose.  It seems to me
that we ought to be able to think of better ways of measuring
someone's ability to consent intelligently.  Some sort of practical
test, perhaps?  This is essentially what credit ratings are, right,
except they only accommodate consent to one type of agreement, namely
the agreement to borrow and lend money.  Perhaps that could be
generalized?  It seems to me that there is a better way than one size
fits all...


On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 3:39 AM, Gned the Gnome <[address removed]> wrote:
>  - Yes, an age of consent is a somewhat arbitrary convention, but is
>  admittedly convenient. Suitable methods for overriding it in either direction
>  as appropriate for specific individuals would allow fine tuning as needed. The
>  7th and 19th Amendments at the bottom of
>­ would be
>  examples of how this might be done in a relatively free society.
>  Gned the Gnome - philosopher etc.
> ----- Original Message -----
>  From: <[address removed]>; <[address removed]>
>  Sent: Saturday, April 19,[masked]:24 PM
>  Subject: Re: Re: [philosophy-156] Tonight's philosophy topic: Freedom and
>  Toleration
> We didn't really touch on the question of how to determine the age of consent,
>  although we all agreed that there is (or should be) some age of consent, and
>  that people below such age deserve special protections and considerations. The
>  problems of determining a suitable age of consent raises some very interesting
>  points. Can society ever be able to determine some special age that confers on
>  people responsibility for their actions and decisions? Wouldn't any such age
>  be nothing more than a very crude approximation, a clumsy statistical
>  abstraction? It seems that any such age would be as normative as it was
>  descriptive. But clearly civilized society seems to require that there be some
>  one age at which people are deemed to have attained some status they didn't
>  have before that age. Of course no such transition ever magically happens that
>  way on anyone's particular birthday. It's a kind of myth that enables
>  civilization to continue. It seems that such an age is an agreed on
>  convention with legal force behind it that is applied everywhere in one
>  nation at a time. It's an example of the need for a public sphere.
>  ...
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