“ Very good discussion today ”
— Peter B. on Jun 4, 2016.
“ Anytime we are thinking.....considering pros and cons, we become more conscious ”
— Merle R. on Oct 5, 2013.
“ I clicked on to get info and somehow I was then somehow a member. From reading the site, it seems silly. George posits total determinism versus total free wil. Obviously there are all kinds of internal and external influences on our attitudes, actions, beliefs, etc. The real question, which I am interested in, is whether and how within that matrix, choice enter. It appears that this is not explored. Nor is the group about exploring a question; it is about pushing a point of view. But if you believe in total determinism, then all arguments (and all understandings of them) are totally predetermined, so there is no such thing as a rational exploration, which requires making choices amongst different arguments. So "exploring" is an impossibility, as is "thinking," as we know that term. Thinking devolves into a stimulus-response mechanism, with thoughts, actions and choices being total illusions. Autonomy is also an illusion. ”
— Peter on Jul 21, 2013.
“ Thanks to George and the entire group for such an intense afternoon! ”
— guitarhunter on Mar 2, 2013.
“ it is nice to find others who share the same questions and who are willing to talk about their feeling and ideas ”
— Frank V. on May 8, 2011.
“ I was reading about the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. google it and read the Wikepedia - my answer is so called "radomness" is still predetermined because at those microscopic levels "quantum" a .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% difference in the experiment with "hidden variables" not yet known to mankind may very well one day in the future explain how the outcome is not random after all. George, i believe this Copenhagen Heisenberg is the final debate: ”
— N on Feb 8, 2011.
“ I really have no choice, probably because I'm the group organizer, but to say that I think the group is awesome. The level of our discussions is definitely post-graduate, and cutting edge at that. ”
— George on Jul 4, 2010.