Ethics: Evolution, De-evolution, and Diversity

Hey everyone,

Will be meeting at El Agave Mexican Restaurant in Warrenton for our February meeting on ethics. El Agave is located in the Warrenton Village Center at the intersections of highways 17 and 29/211.

Looking forward to seeing you all,

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  • Terry

    This was my first FPF meetup. I enjoyed the discussion very much. Can't wait for the next event!

    February 26, 2013

  • Craig Y.

    A question was raised, being nice or ethical may not conducive to creativity. If we look at Roman republican and the empire periods. The former was boring, peaceful, ethical and the latter, excitng and turbulant, violent, and unethical. The people suffered in the latter. The philosophers looked at society in the long term, and deduced the lessons. The analogy is that are we now leaving the Republican period and entered to the Empire period for some time? On the individual level, an anti-social creature seemed not able to get along with the people surrounding him. In a confined environment, nice social behavior seem conducive to success.

    February 25, 2013

  • Glenn

    I thoroughly enjoyed it. It was nice meeting everyone (my first Meetup with this group). It was great to be part of an exchange of ideas and insights within such a thoughtful, considerate, and actively engaged group.

    February 25, 2013

  • Carolyn

    Hi Maria,

    I'm so sorry and had to cancel at the last minute. Hope tonight was great and I'm looking forward to the next Forum.

    February 23, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    Somebody played sick at work so they could go out tonight, so I get to cover them. I wanted Mexican food. Insert sad emoticon--> :-(

    February 23, 2013

  • Brian U.

    Hello everyone, this discussion looks like it'll be an interesting one! Would you mind if I brought a friend? I can't promise that I'll come, but I'll try.

    February 22, 2013

    • Maria

      Hey Brian,

      Please feel free to bring a guest with you. I look forward to meeting you both. Maria

      February 22, 2013

  • Craig Y.

    What is ethics? Is it personal or inter-personal? Is ethics still useful? What has the development of science influenced ethics?

    February 2, 2013

    • A former member
      A former member

      I had to look-up Principle of Permissible Harm. Kant has been mocked his impracticality. Never lie? It's ALWAYS wrong? Hmm.I just humbly wanted to point out those 2 schools show us the immense difficulty in achieving a full, final, rational account of ethics. Just considering Kant - what freak of nature.. almost alien-like intelligence working day-after-day for decades on these issues. And John S. Mill.. lol, his childhood education is legendary -google it. You flatter me with the bit about me being clever. Thanks, my sensitive male ego is susceptible to compliments from intelligent, thoughtful ladies. But look, I ain't clever, I'm just not busy (lol) and that feeds my curiosity in philosophy. I'm almost hopelessly confused and my memory sucks, but I enjoy and find it useful to talk to others about it.

      February 6, 2013

    • Maria


      Hopelessly confused and forgetful, eh? Just wait ‘til you’re my age. I agree; ethics is quite a slippery slope. Lots of rhetoric but not nearly as much follow-through. Apt reference to John S. Mill, by the way. Some quotes of his that are worthy of discussion: “Actions are right in proportion as they tend to promote happiness; wrong as they tend to produce the reverse of happiness.”

      “The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others.”

      Other Mill quotes: http://www.brainyquot...­

      1 · February 7, 2013

  • JJR

    Asked around and got the following recommendations for meeting locations in Bealeton: M & P Pizza; Grioli's Italian, and El Agave Mexican. I am told that these are local restaurants with decent food, reasonable prices, that work well for small groups, and are easily assessed from Hwy 17. Thinking of you, Jason!

    January 31, 2013

    • A former member
      A former member

      Thanks. Mexican is good -free chips and salsa with a beer.

      1 · February 5, 2013

    • Maria

      Right on.

      1 · February 6, 2013

  • Maria

    Hey gang,

    Next meeting scheduled for February 23rd. Location will be Warrenton, venue to be decided. Suggestions welcome.

    We’ll discuss ethics during this meeting, with regard to religious controls, political influences, and societal changes that have necessitated an expansion of ideologies. Will include Aristotelian and Confucian theories, as well as the field of moral psychology (e.g., the works of Owen Flanagan). Some links to explore for ideas: Aristotelian Ethics:

    Confucian Ethics:

    Moral Psychology/Owen Flanagan:

    January 27, 2013

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