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Response from a Correspondent with Informative Link: Re: Essay on Obamacare + Opinion on Article on Terrorism from Orlando Freethinkers & Humanists member Dan S.

From: Norma Jeane Y.
Sent on: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 11:00 AM

Wow! Mary, "My 'god,'!"  WHO WRITES such stuff?! (obviously writers for the congresspeople who draft the bills)--is as "huge-mongus" & probably equally incomprehensible as the IRS Code, other govt. documents.  I pity the reporters who have the assignments to read through & communicate the "essences" to their publics. Would make your brain go dead.  No wonder congress members can "slip in" riders or provisions or pork barrel perks to their favorite donors/voters.

--(Mary is president of the Greater Orlando National Organization for Women.)

--Norma


From: Mary <[address removed]>
To: 'Norma Young' <[address removed]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 10,[masked]:03 AM
Subject: RE: Essay on Obamacare + Opinion on Article on Terrorism from Orlando Freethinkers & Humanists member Dan S.

I think I sent this out before.
 
http://housedocs.house.gov/energycommerce/ppacacon.pdf
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Norma Young [mailto:[address removed]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 10,[masked]:36 AM
To: undisclosed recipients:
Subject: Essay on Obamacare + Opinion on Article on Terrorism from Orlando Freethinkers & Humanists member Dan S.
 
 
 
Dan, well thought-out essay; have done minor visual editing (double-spacing between paragraphs, bolding & underlining paragraph headings) to make more readable before sending on to others.  Sources you cited would not transmit as was; apparently some internal restriction from originators.

--Norma


 
----- Forwarded Message -----
From: Dan
Sent: Monday, October 8,[masked]:44 PM
Subject: Re: Intel Officials Dismayed at Obama Cover-Ups in Libya, Egypt, and Iran


Willow,
     The charges about "ObamaCare" keep changing but any that I've been able to check on have proven false.  I couldn't find anything on this most recent iteration but can make a few comments based on my less than perfect memory.
(1)  Robbing Peter to pay Paul: The $716 billion in Medicare cuts, as I recall, will come from Medicare Advantage, an initially unfunded product of the Bush administration. Benefits for Advantage will now, in many cases, be more in line with regular Medicare but overall health care coverage, which includes ObamaCare, will benefit.
(2) Increased insurance fees: So long as you have private companies, in business for a profit, providing insurance, you will have more and larger increases than, for instance, Medicare.  However, the rate of increase has slowed down under ObamaCare and if companies devote less than 80% of the premiums they receive to actual health care, they have to give it back either in the form of a premium credit or an actual check.  In the old days before the companies got too greedy they mostly dedicated 80% or more to health care.
(3) Doctor shortage -- I don't know much about this one but being a doctor rarely results in a trip to the "poor house."  I think it will gradually be worked out.
(4) Delayed implementation (some rules not yet written) --  I also don't know too much about this one but suspect that it's just another "red herring."  You can be pretty sure that the rules necessary for implementation will be written before the provisions they would cover are scheduled to take effect.  I could be proven wrong if Congress doesn't provide enough funds to the executive branch but I think that branch will probably manage somehow.  All bets are off if Gov. Romney is elected.

(5) "Healthcare Commissars" -- This is an old shoe that has been beaten to death.  The board will be advisory and will have no power to enforce its decisions/opinions.  For instance, there absolutely is no "death panel" as is widely disseminated by conservative news outlets.  They will merely provide information and funds to help families and individuals make end of life decisions.
(6) Concerning the article on terrorism: I think the initial reports of the fatal attack being spontaneous were due to the"fog of war," not a cover-up.  It was very soon also stated that it could have been a terrorist group taking advantage of an unexpected situation.  It was also stated that they may have moved up an already planned attack.  None of this came directly from the White House.  Now there seems to be little doubt.  Delays in getting the FBI on the scene were entirely due to the Libyan government, which is not yet well organized.  A majority of people in that country are grateful for help from the United States and NATO.   The verdict is still out on Egypt's future direction but it did send troops into the Sinai Peninsula, at Israel's insistence, to crack down on alQaeda's attempts to set up shop there.
P.S. -- Some Arab countries, like Saudi Arabia, seem to be sending arms to the Syrian rebels but the United States has held back for fear of the arms winding up in the hands of alQaeda.  It's easy to gloss over things like this when you're only a candidate for President.  The buck stops on Obama's desk.  --Dan

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Mon, Oct 8,[masked]:16 pm
Subject: Fwd: Intel Officials Dismayed at Obama Cover-Ups in Libya, Egypt, and Iran
 
I am trying to find a copy of obama care so I can look through it and see if these things are true.  I tried the internet but all I got was titles about obama care and nothing I could read. I don't want to print it but would like to be able to look at it and read certain sections.

 
 


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