Re: [atheists-36] Response from a corresondent: Re: This is why people hate the church

From: J. Y.
Sent on: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 12:11 PM
I concur with Norma that by not speaking out against a perceived injustice, one is complicit in it - the example of the Nazi's who only constituted perhaps 10% of the population when they were seeking power.


-----Original Message-----
From: Norma Jeane Young <[address removed]>
To: atheists-36 <[address removed]>
Sent: Tue, Nov 19,[masked]:33 am
Subject: [atheists-36] Response from a corresondent: Re: This is why people hate the church

Loving who? 
Loving the Bishop who's hating the gays?
 
Are you exhorting the Bishop to "Lets let go of the hate, anger and ignorance?." -- or me/everybody to let go of hating those who hate?  I guess that was Jesus' famous quote on the cross.  "Forgive them for they know not what they do." 
 
Well. . .maybe it's Time for Education--for that IS a form of Love -- Protest is a form of education -- as the Faithful America group is trying to do--& every other group that's advanced civilization has tried to do & done--the Civil Rights Movement, the Feminist Movement & all the other freedom movements, as well as Environmental, Healthy Food Revolution, etc. etc.
 
Maybe it's Time that people DO KNOW what they do (or forbid) & why.  Maybe it's Time that people LOVE by not accepting & complacently compliciting in the hate--again the analogy of the Holocaust--if the "other people" had protested/had not accepted the Nazi hate when it was in its infancy, it wouldn't have become the monster it became.
 
--Norma
 
 

From: Manny
To: Norma Young <[address removed]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 19,[masked]:14 AM
Subject: Re: This is why people hate the church

Focus on love and get love.
Lets let go of the hate, anger and ignorance.
M


On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Norma Young <[address removed]> wrote:


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From: "Michael Sherrard, Faithful America" <[address removed]>
To: Norma J. Young <[address removed]>
Sent: Monday, November 18,[masked]:25 AM
Subject: This is why people hate the church

Dear Faithful America member,
As U.S. Catholic bishops struggle to adapt to Pope Francis's vision for a more inclusive and welcoming Catholic Church, one Illinois bishop thinks he knows exactly what the pope would want him to do:
Blame marriage equality on the devil and schedule an "exorcism" at the same time the governor signs it into law.
According to Bishop Thomas Paprocki, the Illinois legislature is "morally complicit as co-operators in facilitating this grave sin … We must pray for deliverance from this evil which has penetrated our state and our church."
While other Catholics are working to put service to the poor and broken at the center of the church's ministry, Bishop Paprocki is embarrassing the church with a pointless political stunt, staging what he's calling "prayers of supplication and exorcism in reparation for the sin of same-sex marriage."
Let's show Bishop Paprocki -- and the dozens of media outlets that are already covering this story -- that everyday Catholics and other Christians are appalled and want him to cancel his plans for this "exorcism."
Thanks!
-- Michael and Aaron





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