Re: [GrassrootsAtheism] are you familiar with god is not great by hitchens?

From: Christopher M.
Sent on: Sunday, May 16, 2010 8:06 PM

I have a signed copy of God is Not Great sitting on my bookshelf. I liked it. I can't say that the book changed my mind about anything or influenced me in any way, but I remember it was an easy and enjoyable read.

 

To paraphrase Thomas Edison who said, "Religion is bunk," I say that, "Mysticism is bunk." Just like religion, mysticism only thrives on our ignorance and survives in the dark cracks of what is yet unknown. One need not subscribe to some ignoramus' ideas about god and soul and other woo woo to have mystical experiences. If I want to have a mystical experience I can take drugs, or contemplate the complexities of my perceptions as described by contemporary neuroscience. In any case, it is simply a matter of altering one's brain chemistry.

 

As soon as someone makes claims about the existence of gods or of the soul, they have lost all credibility. If they are just using those words as substitutes for words like "mystery" or "consciousness", I am suspicious of their motives. If they really think that gods and souls are real, then they are wrong. If you did not have a body, how would you have any experience at all? All of your sensory organs are contained within your body. The mind is a product of brain activity -how can you think without a brain?

 

When it comes to the mysticisms of Taoism and Eckankar and the thousands of other such things, I have to cry, "Bullshit!" because I know too much. Organized mysticism is for the gullible and ignorant.

 

-Chris

 


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From: "Chuck K" <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Sunday, May 16,[masked]:18:26 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: RE: [GrassrootsAtheism] are you familiar with god is not great by hitchens?

I met a guy last night who practices Eckankar.
They have meetings on 4th street in downtown Royal Oak.
Someone asked me to go with them once.
Very interesting.
I bet he does not mention that one either.
Chuck
 


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To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: [GrassrootsAtheism] are you familiar with god is not great by hitchens?
Date: Sun, 16 May[masked]:30:08 -0400

I think Christopher Hitchens is critical of the mainstream religions in "God is not Great" because they are the religions that that influence society the most.  I feel the book would not have been as popular (easy to read) if he had also focused on the numerous, equally poisonous but less popular religions.

 
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 9:49 AM, chuck kaltwasser <[address removed]> wrote:
to Christopher McLaughlin

Are you familiar with "God is not Great = how religions poisons everything" by Christopher Hitchens?  What I find kind of odd about the book is no mention about Taoism?  Is Taoism not mentioned because you can only find it in the library and never on television?  Can you remember Laoze or Lao-tse or even Confucius mentioned on TV?

Also, he makes no mention about Theosophy, no mention of Cosmic Consciousness by Richard Maurice Bucke, no mention of spiritually inspired poets like William Blake, all the things that might relate even indirectly to what ever "god" is, but these things are just gathering dust in the library, so aren't good for the television camera.

http://books.google.com/books?id=TAdt2phAjY8C&printsec=frontcover&dq=cosmic+consciousness&source=bl&ots=81XdqrYJZv&sig=GWoNU4w-e31oXcokuHadYVTmtY0&hl=en&ei=XfXvS5nzBaDEM9u2_N4P&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

The link enclosed has something to do with Dr. Richard Maurice Bucke, he might be new to you.  Mysticism definitely isn't the same as organized religion, it is more introverted and hence escapes "big brother," the television camera....

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