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Re: [entrepreneur-1566] Hi HKBOers, please contribute your ideas for our coming meetup to be scheduled in February

From: user 2.
Sent on: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:28 AM
Yes Terry you are right, it was BNI I was referring to. 1 comment on 
your presentation I might add. I am an Open Source Specialist, and 
currently working for Dairy Farm, We own 7-11, Mannings, Welcome, Ikea, 
Olivers, and a few others. My work involves recommending and 
implementing Open source solutions to problems, in most cases better 
than MS solutions, one of those is to Role out the Open Office as an 
accepted standard for Documentation, Excel, powerpoint, though the 
Access component is lacking, it is not used. So Thumbs up on the 
promotion of Open office, But I think the idea of dualy booting to 
Ubuntu might be a bit premature, I would show that Open office works, 
stably, and is as effective and in some cases better than MS Office, 
within the Windows environment, and that it is faster, more stable, and 
less chance to loose some work. Possible show casing of Ubuntu is great 
for some of us IT types, but I beleive its to Geek for many of the 
business types, and would not be usefull for them to see.
It might be an idea to place a couple of Topics, such as Presenting 
Alternatives in the open source market, that can help people stay 
productive, but save money.
Some ideas I thought of is like this.
MS Office (Word,Excell, Power Point) => Open Office.
Adobe Paint Shop => Paint.NET
Adobe Acrobat PDF Creator => . CutePDF (Looks like a printer, so 
anything can be made into PDF)
Plus many many more.
Though I am not sure of the Geekiness of the attendees, we don't want to 
scare those no Tech types away.

Regards
Geoff

Terry Tong wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> Thank you all for your kind input! After collecting all the ideas 
> contributed and based on our current situation, I'd like to propose 
> the following for our coming meetup in February:
>
> HKBO February Meetup
>
> Length:
> Around 2 hours or less
>
> What :
> Hopefully, we will start around 8pm.
>
> 1. Brief introduction of Ubuntu and OpenOffice.org as free 
> alternatives to Windows and MS Office; dual boot Windows and Linux; 
> (given by me) - around 30-45 minutes
> 2. Productivity or PIM (Personal Information Management, outlook etc) 
> or Taxation/Accounting (given by a guest, depending on whom we will be 
> able to invite on that night) - around 30-45 minutes
> 3. Free discussion (challenges/opportun­ities of Vincci's 
> business/industry and/or other topics as suggested by Philip and/or 
> plans on next meetups) - around 30-45 minutes
>
> End around 10pm.
>
> Date:
> In early February, around 8pm on a week day; The date and time is open 
> for suggestion.
>
> Place:
> Somewhere on HK Island, perhaps in Causeway Bay; open for suggestion.
>
> I will announce the meetup later this week. If I don't receive any 
> suggestions on the date and place, I will make the decision. Please 
> also let me know if you'd like to change the topics of the meetup.
>
> @Adam:
> I have tried Ning.com. It is pretty good. So basically we don't need 
> to do any extra work on setting up the forum, etc. It's very 
> functional out-of-box. Hopefully, we will move the discussion over to 
> Ning.com soon.
>
> @Vincci & Philip
> Thanks for the suggesions. I think they will make some interesting 
> topics for the free discussion session.
>
> @Geoff
> Thanks for the suggestions on the organization of the meetup. Let's 
> see how we may implement some of the rules/organizational­ improvement. 
> By the way,
> IBO-> did you mean BNI? Actually, I had been to a few meetings of BNI 
> earlier last year. Yes, the way BNI organizes its meetings is very 
> good, although it requires a lot more commitment from both the 
> organizers and the members; and yes indeed, the membership fee is 
> quite expensive. It's a huge challenge if HKBO is to become such a 
> group (in terms of the organization, not the content). Given our 
> current situation, it is very hard. But, that makes a very good goal. 
> We will see.
>
> Anyway, thanks again for your time and good suggestions!
>
> Cheers,
> Terry
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Geoffrey Tipton <[address removed] 
> <mailto:[address removed]>> wrote:
>
>     Another way to look at it maybe in the way that the IBO do it,
>     they have a weekly meeting, strct rules.
>     Every week, 1 member presents their business, in a 15 Minute
>     Presentation.
>     Every one has 2 minute to present them selfs and their business,
>     New members have 30 Seconds.
>     Then finished with Q&A, then sometimes Guest speakers are invited
>     on special topics.
>     Only 1 representative of each business is aloud in that Group, so
>     another group is formed, same rules.
>     They all pay a monthly member ship fee.
>     And they Vow to promote each others business, like having 20 plus
>     marketing people of your business.
>     The meetings are at 7 am in the morning, (<- Crazy, but shows
>     comitment)
>
>
>     The 15 Minute presentation is usually to educate everyone else in
>     the team on how the business can help them, sometimes giving
>     advise, and in many cases can be very educational and interesting.
>
>     Now this may be to structured for our Task's, but on the other
>     hand, there is some formula her that could be used, such as the
>     introduction stage, 15 Minute presentation, even Guest Speaker,
>     and everyone having more than 1 of your business cards. but put it
>     into a bar, Team up business of similar nature, and have a good
>     time to boot.
>
>
>     TSE Ho keung wrote:
>
>         Hi, everybody,
>          How about a common topic --- coming challenges, risks and
>         opportunities.
>          Each of us may have a lot to talk about and learn from others
>         regarding our individual businesses, trades and also, the
>         global financial situations.
>           Philip TSE  
>         */Terry Tong <[address removed] <mailto:[address removed]>>/*
>         wrote:
>
>            Hi everybody,
>
>            First, thanks a lot for Scott's suggestions! Yes, some form of
>            online communication is a good idea, I can help with that
>         (blog,
>            forum etc). But again, the challenge will be how to
>         stimulate the
>            participation of the members. But anyway, that's a good idea. I
>            will see how I can setup a blog or forum for the group (so
>         Scott,
>            you don't have to do it).
>
>            By the way, as for the topic for the next meetup: would you be
>            interested in learning something about website setup, open
>         source
>            software (especially OpenOffice.org as a free alternative to MS
>            Office), or Linux (as a free alternative to Windows), or some
>            tech-related topics that are related to small businesses?
>         If so,
>            let me know because I (inspired by Scott's suggestion)
>
>            I will also invite someone who may provide some tax/accounting
>            advice. So, that's great! Scott has provided some good
>         ideas, so
>            we have some specific topics for the next meetup. I will
>         announce
>            the details later.
>
>            At the mean time, nothing has been finalized, yet. I hope you
>            don't take this as a signal (or an excuse) for stopping
>         thinking.
>            Any ideas are welcome at any time, remember, we still need
>         ideas
>            for the meetups to follow.
>
>            I understand that not everyone on the mailing list may see the
>            email in time, because the email account subscribed might
>         not be
>            checked very often. But that doesn't matter. Any time, if
>         you have
>            something you'd like to say and share, you are welcome to
>         do so.
>
>            Thanks,
>            Terry
>            p.s. Sorry, Scott, if you receive this message twice. I
>         have just
>            realized it should be addressed to the mailing list, instead of
>            just your email account.
>
>
>            On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Scott Christensen
>            <[address removed] <mailto:[address removed]>
>         <mailto:[address removed] <mailto:[address removed]>>>­ wrote:
>
>                ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>                From: Scott Christensen <[address removed]
>         <mailto:[address removed]>
>                <mailto:[address removed] <mailto:[address removed]>>>­
>                Date: Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:34 PM
>                Subject: Re: [entrepreneur-1566] Hi HKBOers, please
>         contribute
>                your
>                ideas for  our coming meetup to be scheduled in February
>                To: [address removed]
>         <mailto:[address removed]>
>                <mailto:[address removed]
>         <mailto:[address removed]>>
>
>
>                A very good idea would be to create a message group or blog
>                page so
>                people could throw questions out there when they have
>         them and get
>                responses from members of the group.  'problem solving'
>         is a
>                full time
>                job for business owners, this would be very popular I
>         think.          I think
>                creating some connections through internet chatting
>         would help
>                everyone find some common topics.
>
>                For the meetup I think maybe best would a 30 minute
>         speech from
>                someone who could come to talk about something useful for
>                everyone,
>                like webpage services, or accounting or tax
>         advice,etc..  and then
>                have a hangout session after that maybe.  I guess
>         everyone has
>                very
>                different businesses though so hard to find something
>         useful for
>                everyone.
>
>                If of interest I could try to figure out how easy it is to
>                setup a blog page.
>
>
>                On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Terry Tong
>                <[address removed] <mailto:[address removed]>
>         <mailto:[address removed] <mailto:[address removed]>>>­ wrote:
>                > Hi everybody,
>                >
>                > First, a big thank you for opening the email! Please
>         spend 2
>                minutes to read
>                > the rest of it.
>                >
>                > Happy new year! This is Terry, the organizer of HKBO. I'd
>                like to take this
>                > opportunity to invite you to contribute your ideas
>         for our
>                coming meetup
>                > scheduled in February (which will be announced later).
>                >
>                > More specifically, I'd like to gather your ideas on the
>                following:
>                > 1. Topic: what would you like to see, discuss, or
>         have for
>                the coming
>                > meetup?
>                >
>                > 2. Format: how should our next meetup be conducted:
>         casual
>                chat, seminar,
>                > dinner? or should we invite some guest speakers to the
>                meetup? if so, who
>                > would you like to meet?
>                > (don't underestimate our capability to reach and
>         invite some
>                interesting
>                > people)
>                >
>                > The following 2 items are easy (priority will be given to
>                those members who
>                > speak first):
>                > 3. Place: where would you like to meet?
>                > (I have noticed that some members won't come to the
>         meetup
>                if it's not
>                > scheduled on HK island, If so, please let me know
>         explicitly
>                so that I may
>                > make better arrangement.)
>                >
>                > 4. Date and Time: which day of the week would you prefer,
>                and at what time?
>                > (hopefully we will pick a date and time that suits
>         around at
>                least 10
>                > people, minus those who don't show up, we will still have
>                enough people to
>                > make the meetup a worthwhile social event for your life
>                outside of work.)
>                >
>                > The following 2 items are some organizational issues:
>                > 5. Frequency: should our meetup be monthly, bi-weekly, or
>                weekly?
>                >
>                > 6. Leaders wanted: anybody interested in becoming a
>                co-organizer in this
>                > group?
>                > (by that I mean, whether you would be interested in
>         becoming
>                a co-organizer
>                > so that for example, I may hold a meetup in the
>         first-half
>                of the month and
>                > you may hold a meetup in the second-half of the
>         month, with
>
>                different
>                > topics/interests. That way, we may make it a more
>         frequent
>                event and
>                > hopefully can stimulate the participation of the
>         members in
>                the group. Say,
>                > if you can't catch the meetup (or not interested) in the
>                first-half of the
>                > month, you may go to the one in the second-half. Due
>         to the
>                limited time and
>                > energy of a single person, I can't make this happen
>         just by
>                myself.)
>                >
>                > Some of our members have suggested that we should have a
>                specific topic for
>                > each meetup so that the discussions will be more
>         interesting
>                and focused. I
>                > am asking for your help to contribute your ideas for
>         topics.
>                We have over 80
>                > subscribed members, there bound to be some brilliant
>         ideas
>                coming from you!
>                >
>                > From what we have achieved in the past meetups, I
>         think now
>                it's time to
>                > reform it. Your participation is crucial in this
>         important step.
>                >
>                > I have noticed that in December and January, we had
>         quite a
>                few new members
>                > joined the group. Welcome! And please contribute your
>         ideas.
>                To all members:
>                > your idea will not only benefit the rest of the
>         group, but
>                more importantly,
>                > yourself. I guess one of the reasons you choose to
>         join this
>                group is
>                > because you want to spend some meaningful time with
>         someone
>                who share some
>                > common interests with you, right? But to give meaning
>         to the
>                membership and
>                > your time, your participation is the only thing that
>         really
>                matters.
>                >
>                > I truly appreciate your idea; any idea is
>         indefinitely many
>                times better
>                > than 0 idea. If I don't hear from anyone of you (if
>         that's
>                really the case,
>                > I will be disappointed), I will still schedule the next
>                meetup and make all
>                > the decisions by myself. We can still keep the meetup
>         alive
>                and ongoing, but
>                > I guess there won't be a lot of meaning in it. This is a
>                community group
>                > which I happen to be organizer, but please remember, a
>                community is a
>                > community only if the people in it take ownership of
>         it; an
>                organizer is an
>                > organizer only if he can talk to his community and get
>                feedback from its
>                > people.
>                >
>                > Thank you for your time. I look forward to your
>         ideas, soon.
>                >
>                > Have a nice weekend,
>                > Terry
>                >
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