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Silly Things Philosophers Say....

A former member
Post #: 5
"Scientism"
Massimo Pigliucci has a blog Scientia Salon which I regularly comment on although, since I mainly and easily debunk the things the philosophers say with brain science, he censors my comments closely. lol....public intellectuals are very intolerant...

Here is recent comment on the silly name calling notion of "scientism" which is false, even using the internal"logic" of philosophy:
Again, the name calling of “scientism” seems rhetorical and journalistic trickery – at best. Deeply dishonest name calling, in fact.

1. No belief system statement can be proven or disproven, e.g. philosophism – or the claim that every statement is a subjective/intuitive/philosophical one or that logic exists, consicousness-language matters,or a god, or spirits…these cannot be verified and no universal/intersubjective claims or evidence can be applied.
2. By definition, any statement that claims it is evidence-based (so called “science”) must be refutable and disprovable. There is no “-ism” in anything “scientific.

In fact, there is no uniform set of statements or behaviors that could comprise a “science.” It is a journalistic and political strawman. Which philosophers love to swat at.

There is however a dominant cultural ideology of “philosolipism” which preaches that everything, really just any use of everyday language, is “philosophical” or solipsistic and subjective. That is also factually untrue. Airplanes, etc disprove this silly claim by philosophers.
A former member
Post #: 6
These are the kinds of medical facts that demand a reset of humanist/atheist behaviors:

All business and policy is about changing behavior. All behavior is driven by molecules in the brain. Therefore, all business is about changing molecules in the brain.

“(Since) … neuronal events in the brain determine behavior, irrespective of whether they are conscious or unconscious, it is hard to find room for free will. But if free will does not exist, there can be no responsibility, and the structure of human societies must be revised”

So with behavior ultimately molecular and completely unconscious and instantaneous - where are critiques of magical beliefs? The core premise of atheist "thought" is that magical religious beliefs - as stated in everyday language - have some influence on behavior.

The medical science contradicts all that. What people say probably has very little influence on behaviors - if any!
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