Re: [jsmn] JSMN Code of Conduct

From: Dan M.
Sent on: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 7:32 PM
Marc is right that *harassment* is not necessarily an issue that affects our group (and the MN tech community at large, as far as I know), but *discrimination* is. Not necessarily active or intentional discrimination, but let's be honest, we are an extremely, unusually, unnaturally, and eerily homogenous group.

I would be interested in seeing this at least be a topic of discussion among these local meetups. We can all read blogs about "women in tech" and lament the issue, but I think these sorts of things probably change at a local level first.

So, Kevin, James, and Jason: when you added the "proactive" section to the code of conduct, did you have any ideas about how we might do this as a group? Anyone else?

40 men in a room proclaiming the group is free of sexual harassment may be factual but is not particularly meaningful.

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Marc Grabanski <[address removed]> wrote:
Also, my wife has been to a lot of meetings including JS MN and has had, in general, good experiences. I think women should be respected and encouraged to come, so I think a note of encouragement and embrace..focusing on outreach..would go further than making rules / code of conduct.

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Marc Grabanski <[address removed]> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 3:13 PM, James Greene <[address removed]> wrote:
To be clear: there haven't been any known incidents of harassment at JSMN.  Kevin is referring to other folks' experiences (especially women's) like this:

Why are we being proactive about something that isn't effecting this group that we are aware of? 
IMO, we are all a kind and tolerant people. And while we like to take up offenses for other people, it isn't necessary.

I just want to continue learning and teaching JS and other things rather than getting derailed into "code of conduct" discussions for problems that don't exist that I or anyone here is aware of...but, if you guys want to start a campaign and have ideas to get more women involved in JS meetups and other local tech groups...that's something I could support! 

<3 you all,


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