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Re: [KC-Midtown-FreeThinkers] Jesus Poll by Josh Stewart

From: Brad H.
Sent on: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 8:40 PM
I would like to echo Eric's previous post.  There was probably a real person, and he was probably an apocalyptic preacher.  This is Bart Ehrman's and most other scholar's views.  His primary reason is not as somebody suggested earlier in the string.  He gives many reasons based in historical science.  His is also the majority opinion among scholars.  That doesn't mean he must be right, but I certainly think it gives the idea merit.  (It's the same reason I accept AGW and evolution; the vast majority of scholars who study it agree.)  I think we need to be careful as atheists not to look for the answer we want; it's a very tasty idea to us atheists that the person is completely made up.  However, just because later followers made up a lot of stuff about him, like his birth on Dec. 25 and many other details of his life, doesn't mean that there wasn't an actual person.  I fully intend to read more by those that disagree with Ehrman, but for now Ehrman convinces me.  We all like to throw out Occam's razor, so I ask everyone:  Are there more assumptions in the theory that a man lived, preached, created a following, and some of his followers embellished his life?  Or in the theory that someone or many people made a man up, or made ideas up, and somehow a bunch of other people made more stuff up about an idea of a man, until finally everybody believed that there was such a person?  I see the evidence for the latter, and some it is very convincing, but overall, it's just a little too conspiratorial for me.

That's my opinion, for what it's worth.


On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 6:13 PM, cole morgan <[address removed]> wrote:
Josh emailed this idea to me. Please answer the question(s) below:


As a non-Christian, who do you think Jesus was?

1. A historical figure

2. A fictional person purposefully invented by a group of Christians.

3. A mythical figure mistaken as historical by later Christians

4. Other?

Your thoughts? I would certainly find people's answers interesting.

-josh Stewart  

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