Debate/Social -We're all going to die

  • June 16, 2014 · 6:30 PM
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This week's debate statement: Humanity is very quickly approaching a demographic catastrophe with the rate of population growth and the changes in consumption patterns quickly outstripping growth in the supply of food and resources.

This debate stems from the Simon-Ehrlich debate concerning whether necessary resources will eventually disappear and mark a catastrophe for all of humanity or if people will find different resources or methods of maintenance of resources in order to sustain their existence. Brains are encouraged to bring their own knowledge and life experience, as well as do a little research and thinking on the topic prior to attending. View the messages on the topic to see suggested sources to consult.

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  • Samir R.

    Nothing can be better than the great and appealing conversations after a long time "fasting"... Happy to see and meet all new faces...

    4 · June 17

  • Chad

    The resources in the Simon-Ehrlich debate might have been examples that were key to industry (which I would disagree with) but they're not key to life. What if that was the resource we were talking about?

    http://adventure.howstuffworks....­

    June 16

    • Patricia Moogk R.

      Hi, Tess; I was referring to the paper Chad wrote.

      June 17

    • Tess

      Oh, now that I have read the question again, looks like you did!

      June 17

  • JohnD

    Sadly, the meds I'm on at the moment make it iffy to drive (but I won't die!) ... I'll have to skip this one.

    June 16

    • Tess

      So sad you couldn't make it. Even sadder that you didn't think to come and share whatever you're on!

      1 · June 17

    • JohnD

      Potluck meds .. that could be the new big thing.

      2 · June 17

  • Craig

    One more link - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=...­
    Money, debt and the problem with a growth based economy

    1 · June 16

  • Janet

    I'm pretty sure I can come, but I won't be there till after 7. And I might be covered in sweat and snot and spit. I'll mop up a bit prior.

    1 · June 12

    • Chad

      You can sit by me. I couldn't care less how messy you are. (But having said that, don't be surprised if I spray you down with febreeze if you smell.)

      June 15

    • Craig

      Turns out she cleaned up pretty well...

      1 · June 16

  • Patricia Moogk R.

    Thanks Tess, for having this one in your back yard. I mentionned to my husband that it was a good idea because the location is so central and not everyone has a car. Pertinent, or what?

    1 · June 16

  • Janet

    As you are debating resources tonight, please know there seems to be plenty of lobsters in Nova Scotia. And, I've seen no shortage of butter either.

    1 · June 16

    • Craig

      No doubt you are doing your best to control the lobster population

      June 16

    • Janet

      Yup! I'm doing my part, and then some. :)

      June 16

  • Gary

    Unless you're blowing bubbles from the ocean bottom , maybe too many lobsters are dinner rather than dining. ;)
    As for the butter - just imagine the conversation one could have about milk , and cows !

    1 · June 16

  • Alan B.

    Sorry, I have to drop out. I was really looking forward to this chat. :(

    June 14

    • Tess

      Oh, that's too bad. More resources for us then! Randomly selective population control - my plan for preservation of our way of life. :-D

      2 · June 14

    • Alan B.

      Damn you and your perpetually effective plan!

      1 · June 15

  • Chad

    Looking a little at what was posted regarding minerals brought this to mind:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=...­

    VICE Season 2, Episode 3 - American Scrap and Children of the Drones. Each story is 15 minutes, American Scrap is the first one. Especially pay attention to who is BUYING the scrap.

    June 15

  • Louise

    Looking forward to it...the debate! Not the coming plague which may very well render this debate somewhat moot!

    2 · June 15

  • Tess

    Just finished the prep for this debate -what an awesomely meaty topic. I'm so pumped!

    June 15

    • Craig

      Meaty? as in Soylent Green?

      June 15

  • Tess

    Parking: I have a long driveway that can fit four or five cars but all in a row. If you want to park under the market off Cedar, it is free from 6:30 - 10 every day.

    June 15

  • Janet

    Craig's link to the Albert Bartlett talk was amazing. Since he spoke so much about energy, and since his talk predates the current fracking frenzy, I thought I'd share this. Written by a geoscientist from the Geological Survey of Canada, it debunks the abundance claims of the unconventional oil and gas lobby. I have an infographic-heavy synopsis if anyone prefers.
    http://www.postcarbon.org/drill...­

    1 · June 15

  • Gary

    Prep?! I was hoping to slide through on opinion alone :)

    1 · June 15

  • Craig

    If you only have 10 minutes, here is a great summary - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=...­, but if you have an hour, the original is far more entertaining and revealing, IMHO - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=...­

    There is not a lot of production value or CGI graphics, just some solid, easy to understand math.

    If you look really closely in the first video there is a chilling graphic...I grabbed a frame: http://imgur.com/zWDKzB8­

    3 · April 24

    • Tess

      I just looked at that graphic. ROFL!!

      June 11

    • Janet

      I can't help but notice the of options to decrease the population is not ordered in terms of effectiveness. Mwahahaha!!!

      2 · June 15

  • Tess

    Some relevant and recent news: http://news.discovery.com/earth...­

    June 15

  • Gary

    Since it sounds like you won't be dressing to impress , I'm betting you still will with your mental prowess. :)

    1 · June 12

  • Craig

    Hey - Samir's back :)

    3 · June 11

    • Tess

      Yeah!!

      1 · June 11

    • Samir R.

      Thanks Craig, Tess and all... although we may take a short break, but the group in my heart and we will never brake apart...

      2 · June 11

  • Tess

    I'm opening up my backyard for the debates this summer. This turns them into a BYOB and snacks type of situation, which should make it a bit less expensive for all involved. I will, of course, always have a great selection of beer, wine and coolers available if someone forgets and wants to buy a some from me, at cost. There will be ice water with lemon wedges always available and there's a convenience store nearby for all other beverages and snacks. Cheers.

    1 · June 10

    • Alan B.

      Can I bring anything? If we're going to lightly potluck, maybe we should sound off on a few things to bring...

      June 10

    • Tess

      I think it's best to save the more complicated potluck events for the parties. For debates, just bring what you want and share if you want or if you don't.

      June 11

  • Gary

    I clicked on the map link above but that didn't tell me where I should be going. As Johnny 5 said in the (in)famous movie ; " need input " .

    June 9

    • Tess

      There ya go Gary -should work better now.

      June 10

  • Janet

    I will miss this debate but would have enjoyed hearing people's thoughts on the idea of population control as a means of ensuring survival.

    June 1

  • Tess

    Some background to the Simon-Ehrlich debate:

    Planet Money podcast on it: http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/...­

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/tim...­

    http://thebreakthrough.org/inde...­

    April 24

13 went

  • Tess
    All around nice person :), Organizer
    Event Host
  • Patricia Moogk R.
    Member in Charge of Reminding us to be Happy of Where We Be
  • Gary W.
    Visiting skeptic-at-large
  • Chad
    Official I'm going to bring the debate person
  • Barry J.
    General Research Chair and Homework Checker, Assistant Organizer
  • Janet
    Member in charge of making our world a better place
  • B
    Becomingingly Beautiful Baking Blaster of Bullsh*t & Balderdash
  • Samir R.
    Person in charge of making us all go -wow, never thought of that
  • Craig
    Official Anarchist -kinda, Assistant Organizer

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