June 24, 2012 - 19 went

Street Photography at Venice Beach

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Added by A former member
on Jun 26, 2012.
 

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  • A former member

    A little criticism, this shot would be a lot better if you use shallow DOF. Background people are distracting.

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  • A former member

    Agreed. I am still getting used to my new camera, I probably shot this at either f5.6 or f8. I think I need to shoot at f4 next time. Thanks for the constructive feedback.

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  • A former member

    This was shot at f5.6 Changing up to f4 isn't going to change the DOF much when you're using a 23mm focal length.

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  • A former member

    Thanks PhotoJoe. it's a 23mm, 35mm equivalent. I could try getting closer or shooting at f2.8. Since I am not shooting with a DSLR, and the x100 isn't a beast at quick focusing, at least shooting at f4 gives me some leeway if the subject isn't completely still. I'll try different f stops and see what works best.

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  • A former member

    While the Field Of View(FOV) might be the same as a 35mm lens on a 35mm film camera the physics that result in DOF don't care how an image cropped. A 250mm lens on a 8x10 view camera will have the same FOV as a 35mm lens on a full frame 35mm digital or film camera, or as a 23mm on your camera. It will not have the same DOF as the 23mm or 35mm focal length lens though.

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  • A former member

    HSU, If it not a DSLR F2.8 is not going to help you either. Those bridge or P&S cameras inherently have very deep DOF. Next time try to move, if you can, so background is empty.

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  • A former member

    I think we can debate technique indefinitely here. I am more of an organic shooter. I think getting closer to my subject and shooting f4 should help. Take a look at Thomas Leuthard, he shoots 4/3 20mm at f4, and his shots look fine. Thanks for the input anyway.

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  • larry a.

    Those Bridge and P&S cameras will but you need to be extremely close and shoot wide open and place point of focus closer to you allowing blur to occur sooner

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  • A former member

    Yes! Larry nailed it. The secret is getting closer. I am still working on that :-)

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  • larry a.

    Hsu...one thing I learned till you get comfortable getting closer move the focus point off the subject a few feet in front of the subject shifting the dof

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  • A former member

    @PhotoJoe, you should come shooting with us next time. I think organic shooters like me can always learn to be more technical, and technical shooters can always learn to be more spontaneous. @Larry, I'll try that next time.

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  • A former member

    HSU, what camera are you shooting with? 4/3 camera has crop factor of 2. That means sensor is 1/2 of the FF camera. Bridge and P&S cameras have crop factor (actually they don't because lenses are smaller too) of 24 since the sensor is only 6mmx4mm approximately. Bridge cameras have the same characteristic of FF cameras except for 2 things. DOF and noise. They are getting better in noise department but they will never get better in DOF. In your case moving closer would give you shallower DOF but it would also crop your picture.

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  • Ezekiel T.

    GREAT PHOTO! it has everything,tells a story,in focus,exposure.I like it because no one is looking at her,she is in her own world,there's volleyball,boating,skating,and she is walking a tightrope!

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  • A former member

    @Eugene. I shoot with X100. It has an APS-C sensor. When I got the X100 I completely forgot that shooting with 23mm, it would be harder to isolate my subject. Not a deal breaker, I love my X100 so far. @Ezekiel. Thanks for your kind post. I agree that she is in a world of her own, and everyone else is not paying attention to her.

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  • A former member

    I realize I never said it but I think the photo is just fine as it is. I was just responding to be informative, not to say I thought there was much to be done to improve this photo by manipulating settings on the camera.

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  • Ezekiel T.

    Hsu; Here is my take,when using a W/A lens I rarely try for selective focus,you would have to 2-3 ft. from the subject and shot 1.4 or f/2 to have that effect.When I use my W/A I'm always using f/8 f/11,I want my photo's to be sharp with depth of field.Now I do carry my big lens and thats what I use for selective focus.If I'm doing landscapes then I use f/8 thru f/16 with my big lens.I hope this helps you out.

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  • A former member

    Hsu, more likely even at F2.0 you would not achieve isolation because DOF is a gradual thing. All it would do is to blur background more but not really remove those people. In my opinion if you have stepped to the right a little there would be more open air and better isolation.

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  • larry a.

    HSU...after all that was said and done. Moments go bye so fast...you know that and so does everyone in this group. There are many possibilities we can think of ATFER the fact...but you saw it, you captured it and that is the 2nd BEST thing. THe FIRST BEST THING was you had FUN...haha cool meet up HSU.

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  • Jerry

    Exactly, Larry.

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