Re: [listmg] Shorting Stocks the Vector Vest Way

From: Larry
Sent on: Monday, March 25, 2013 11:31 AM
Neil,
Thanks for the suggestion. I checked a few examples and it confirmed your statement. Much appreciated.
If I could pry a bit further, would you have a favorite book or website that helps someone who is interested in
trading options and already understands the very basics, but wants to brush up on straddles, spreads, buy-write etc.
Herb,
At first glance I thought that your remark was possibly sarcastic. I have accounts at a few brokerages and
when I tried the 2 largest and was rebuffed, I didn't think to try a third one. After your remark, I gave it a go with the
3rd one and sure enough, it worked!! Thanks.
Jim,
Yes, I'd be glad to get the opinions of other experienced VV investors on this strategy. Thanks.
 
 
Larry

From: James De Franco <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Sunday, March 24,[masked]:31 AM
Subject: Re: [listmg] Shorting Stocks the Vector Vest Way

Larry,  Would you like to present this strategy at this Thursday's VV meeting?
 
 
In a message dated 3/23/[masked]:20:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [address removed] writes:
Hi Larry, I  would like to look into this also, Could you be specific on the strategy ,its name , the date it was first presented or just give us the parameters of it Thank Vic

On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Ralph J Michele <[address removed]> wrote:
Have you looked into trading options?
On Mar 23,[masked]:45 AM, "Larry" <[address removed]> wrote:
I am a newcomer to VV and have recently been backtesting strategies. After quite a bit of trial and even more error,
I had decided to be aggressive and try to apply a short strategy. As it turned out, I could not borrow most of the stocks
that my strategy provided since my broker(s) did not have them in inventory. My strategy employs a parameter of
using 300k as a minimum volume, so it really wasn't a matter of using low volume companies.  As I use some of the
biggest brokers around, I decided to call VV tech support and inquire about my dilemma.
 
While they were quite helpful, their solution left me wondering if anyone in our group might have a better solution or
could advise based upon their experiences. The VV tech confirmed that he had the same experience as I did, and suggested
that instead of trying to short individual issues I should either use Contra ETF's or use put option strategies. While I have
experience with options, options involve a whole other realm of considerations (especially time factors), which only confuse
the simplified streamlined strategy system that I was going to VV for in the first place.
 
It was a bit of a letdown to have spent dozens of hours looking for a decent short strategy to only have hit this roadblock.
I am curious if others in this group have any suggestions regarding how to short individual stocks.
 
Thanks,
Larry
 
 




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