the nature of discourse; what works, what doesn't;

in support of Giles welcoming comments, I too discard the competitive waste of debate, leading to 'everyone looses'; and embrace the ubiquitous gains of "discussion" . Our primitive past which was based on constant competition in order to survive, has inevitably led to our psyches embracing "the brawl" as defining us; about time we grew out of that. [and what does the equation in the avatar/logo represent?]

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  • Robert M.

    Was hoping to make this my inaugural meeting, but no such luck. Hopefully next time!

    February 26, 2013

  • Marilyn W.

    Chickening out in the face of a very bad expected storm in Toronto

    February 26, 2013

  • Giles

    Angela - we usually meet at the Imperial, though sometimes we play board games at Snakes and Lattes. I'd love to hear other suggestions though! We'd be looking for somewhere that stays open late, is quiet, isn't overcrowded, is fairly central and next to the subway.

    February 21, 2013

  • Andy T.

    "Our primitive past which was based on constant competition in order to survive", never happened. In fact we have evidence that the nature of man is cooperative. A couple of the hunting and gathering societies that anthropologists have studied were competitive, but most were cooperative.

    it takes cooperation to survive, not competition. check out this quote: ""If one were asked to state briefly and succinctly what are the outstanding positive features of aboriginal civilizations I, for one, would have no hesitation in answering that there are three: the respect for the individual, irrespective of age or sex; the amazing degree of social and political integration achieved by them; and the existence there of a concept of personal security which transcends all government forms and all tribal and group interests and conflicts."[ Paul Radin, {The World of Primitive Man}, Grove Press, NY, 1960, c1953, pg 11.]

    February 20, 2013

  • TG Wah (aka A.

    Will the meeting place for this group be always at Imperial Pub?

    February 20, 2013

  • Alex

    After a discourse with my wife, I realize that I have another commitment on this particular Tuesday; but I acknowledge and appreciate your effort to accommodate my rather inflexible schedule. I hope you have a great discussion.

    February 20, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    i am attending another event @ the Monk Ctre. prior to thi meeting, till 18:00 so will probably be a bit late.
    [still intend to show up.]

    February 20, 2013

  • Giles

    Great idea for a meetup, and it sounds like the 6pm time will work for people. As usual, enter via the door on the right ("library"), go up the stairs and look for the paperclip.

    February 20, 2013

  • Alex

    Good topic! I would attend this discussion if the schedule permits. I'm free on most Tuesday and Friday evenings from 6-8 p.m. (I have children to put to bed; so I'm can't be a night owl like some of the younger members of this meetup.)

    February 14, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    just pointing out that this is the way meetUp does things; i am not "scheduling a meeting", i am suggesting a topic for consideration.
    [you all may have noted the meetUp site is (to me) tedious and confusing, but useful.]

    February 13, 2013

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Rafaël

We just grab a coffee and speak French. Some people have been coming every week for months... it creates a kind of warmth to the group.

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